Amen Break - The world's most important drum loop...
It's a five-second snatch of drums that has been sampled on hundreds--or thousands--of songs. You've heard it this week. You can find the Amen Break in countless hip-hop, acid house, trance and rave songs. You'll even hear it in ads. Its been slowed down, sped up, spliced, chopped, split, dismembered and used as the basis for seemingly every other song that doesn't use a live band. Experts have even tried to figure out the scientific reason as to why it's so popular.
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I’m always amazed these sportscasters and announcers can call the game with McDavid’s **** in their mouths all the time.
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I love what Alex Kozinsky said: "Overprotecting intellectual property is as harmful as underprotecting it. Culture is impossible without a rich public domain. Nothing today, likely nothing since we tamed fire, is genuinely new: Culture, like science and technology, grows by accretion, each new creator building on the works of those who came before. Overprotection stifles the very creative forces it's supposed to nurture."
This reminds me of the documentary.
Standing In The Shadows Of Motown
This is a throw down! A show down! Hell no I can't slow dow! It's gonna go down!
Somehow I knew it was going to be that beat.
I knew it would be that too. I've never consciously thought about it, but that beat is everywhere. Even when I first started playing drums, I used to play that beat all the time and never knew why.
bump, just because I'm in this kind of mood tonight...
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I’m always amazed these sportscasters and announcers can call the game with McDavid’s **** in their mouths all the time.
I come from a musical background. A classical music background. He's most definitely got a point in his conclusion.
I was listening to Alice Cooper on Q a while back, and he was touching on people who send him music. He said he wants none of it, because of constant accusation of plaigarism that exists today, he said that he doesn't want to inadvertently steal a good musician's riff.
As far as ripoffs, there are so many..."What I Got" is "Lady Madonna". "Why Don't you Get a Job" is "Ob La Di, Ob La Da". The "This is What You Get" part of "Karma Police" is ripped from "Sexy Sadie"....and this is just using the Beatles as a source band off the top of my head. "Don't look Back in Anger" by Oasis uses "Imagine"'s intro, and a very minor tweak of "Pachelbel's Canon in D" for the chorus' chord progression. Some of the "ripoffs" are even very good songs in their own right (I'm a huge fan of that last one). Then there's Nickelback!
They rip themselves off! "How You Remind Me" was recycled into "Someday" (and if you google that, they have each song playing in mono out of one speaker simultaneously available. They're in a different key though, so make sure you find a version that's transposed, as it sounds even more scarily similar). Now, I am fairly sure that Nickelback didn't sit there and say:
How you remind me was HUGE for us!!!! We need something that big again....let's tune our guitars a semitone up, and change the words, modify the chords a bit, and tweak the melody just a tad!!!!
....I just think that they're crap songwriters and have very limited creativity. Also, if I'm correct, Kroeger produces music as well, including bands like Theory of a Deadman, and Default. He's managed to make them sound like him too (note "Hero" by Chad Kroger and...someone from some other band?? has a very similar chorus to "Make Up your Mind" by Theory of a Deadman....just a slow progression upwards (on the minor scale).
[Total Music Nerd] To get technical about it, Hero has the minor submediant going to the minor leading note, going to the tonic, whereas Make up your Mind starts at the tonic, but progresses to the mediant, then the subdominant. [/Total Music Nerd]
Cue them up on youtube, and stop "Hero" right before the words "Hero can save us" and stop MUYM on the chord before "We'll wake up", then hit play on each one for a few seconds.
Small variations, but it doesn't help that anything that is remotely related to Kroeger and Nickelback, seems to have the EXACT same guitar sound.
....so now my point. I certainly think that music's gotten worse over the years. While it's partially the listening audience's fault, I think that they're the smaller equation in all of this. The biggest problem is a lack of proper musicians. Myself, I have a good command over any keyboard instrument, and a decent command of my own voice. I might be able to write music, but I certainly would make a crap lyricist.
Record companies, and producers who manufacture stars, and entire bands, do a good job to feed the masses. I still firmly believe, though, that whenever something that's actually really good comes along, it will be inifintely more successful than anything that Simon Cowell can assemble with the equivalent of musical lego (and a pretty pitiful collection of it).
EDIT - Did once again, what I did in another music related thread...didn't finish the whole thing through before commenting on it, just edited the first paragraph there.
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In my mind I really can't hear the hero/how you remind me similarity. I can hear Seal's "Kiss From a Rose" in it though.
I have to disagree with your point about music sucking because many aren't proper musicians. You mention Simon cowell ... True he's made a ton of money, but what has he done to music really? He's sold a ton of records that people forget about and throw away. I don't really think that's hurting music, I feel it's relatively benign.
The reason I also don't agree with you is that often the greatest music is produced more with emotion than knowledge of music theory. I look a a band like dream theatre and simply cannot understand why people find it tolerable. Purely my opinion of course, but I'd rather listen to a poorly played 3 chord ballad drunkenly scribbled on the back of a bar napkin by Noel gallagher than a 4 part rock symphony that took dream theatre a year to compose. I guess my point is that in my eyes emotion is 95% of music (in my opinion). Perhaps oasis is a poor example, I was merely reaching
for something accessible.
In my mind I really can't hear the hero/how you remind me similarity. I can hear Seal's "Kiss From a Rose" in it though.
I have to disagree with your point about music sucking because many aren't proper musicians. You mention Simon cowell ... True he's made a ton of money, but what has he done to music really? He's sold a ton of records that people forget about and throw away. I don't really think that's hurting music, I feel it's relatively benign.
The reason I also don't agree with you is that often the greatest music is produced more with emotion than knowledge of music theory. I look a a band like dream theatre and simply cannot understand why people find it tolerable. Purely my opinion of course, but I'd rather listen to a poorly played 3 chord ballad drunkenly scribbled on the back of a bar napkin by Noel gallagher than a 4 part rock symphony that took dream theatre a year to compose. I guess my point is that in my eyes emotion is 95% of music (in my opinion). Perhaps oasis is a poor example, I was merely reaching
for something accessible.
Sorry, horribly off topic.
Valid point. I like Oasis, and I don't think they're extremely musically inclined, but they can write a song, and perform it properly.
I think many bands today lack both emotion and music though.
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Amen Break - The world's most important drum loop...
