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Old 02-14-2008, 03:15 PM   #1
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In some far off country? Nope.

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The Kansas State High School Activities Association said referees reported that Michelle Campbell was preparing to officiate at St. Mary's Academy near Topeka on Feb. 2 when a school official insisted that Campbell could not call the game.

The reason given, according to the referees: Campbell, as a woman, could not be put in a position of authority over boys because of the academy's beliefs.
Wow, I'm amazed that this still goes on.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:18 PM   #2
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:20 PM   #3
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I remember having women ref me in my high school basketball days…more often than not they where better than most male refs
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:21 PM   #4
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not amazed at all....there are still segements of population that don't follow the morals and ideals that you and i may have.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:26 PM   #5
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Depends, if the school pays for refs IMO they should be able to choose who refs and who doesnt. If they arent paying for it then suck it up sister. There is very little respect for refs man or woman, the only difference is if you call a woman ref a *itch there might be consequences.
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Depends, if the school pays for refs IMO they should be able to choose who refs and who doesnt. If they arent paying for it then suck it up sister. There is very little respect for refs man or woman, the only difference is if you call a woman ref a *itch there might be consequences.
Except that choosing who you hire or not on the basis of their gender is illegal if not down right unconstitutional (not really clear on the American situtation).
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:33 PM   #7
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and this is news? it's in Kansas...
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:36 PM   #8
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This happened in Topeka eh? That's where the Westboro Baptist Church is located. I'm not surprised things like this happen in Topeka.
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:07 PM   #9
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Yet these people harsh on Muslims for being intolerant.

Pot... meet Kettle.

Kansas is so f-ing stupid it makes me laugh.
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Historically speaking, how did Kansas become the state where these types of religious issues crop up?
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:14 PM   #11
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Historically speaking, how did Kansas become the state where these types of religious issues crop up?
Yeah.
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I don't know what you're all so upset about - it makes perfect sense. I don't see refereeing anywhere in this guide: http://www.snopes.com/language/document/goodwife.asp
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The entirety of the US was initially settled by various evangelical groups. Most were pushed aside by subsequent waves of immigration and the development of European style education institutions in the north helped create a normalized society.

The same development didn't occur in the Southern states and they ended up absorbing a lot of the dislodged religious groups. They bound together, becoming the dominant population group in many of these states. Religious views tend to be more favored in the South on the basis of the population distribution more then anything else. Kansas just happens to be one of these states (and may be one of the main sources for the Baptist movement during it's inception... can't remember right now).

It's certainly more involved then that but that's the basics.
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out of curiosity, are male referees in kansas (or i guess anywhere) allowed to call women's games?
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:46 PM   #15
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out of curiosity, are male referees in kansas (or i guess anywhere) allowed to call women's games?

the women are probably deemed too lowly, or they might be afraid the men would succumb to the inherent wickedness in the women and not ref the game fairly.
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It kinda makes sense to have male refs for male games, especially (and I have seen this first hand) because male players/coaches/etc. completely disrespect them, they go out of their way to intimidate female referees... probably due to some macho sexist ego trip... and it works. I was disgusted when I saw it. It was both teams too. The male senior linesman had to take the coaches aside at half time and tell them to put leashes on their players (and themselves).

That isn't to say some female refs aren't tough and mean enough to take that on. It also says absolutely nothing about their competency. Outright banning female refs from men's games is pretty archaic, and shouldn't play to the LCD of male players.

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It kinda makes sense to have male refs for male games, especially (and I have seen this first hand) because male players/coaches/etc. completely disrespect them, they go out of their way to intimidate female referees... probably due to some macho sexist ego trip... and it works. I was disgusted when I saw it. It was both teams too. The male senior linesman had to take the coaches aside at half time and tell them to put leashes on their players (and themselves).

That isn't to say some female refs aren't tough and mean enough to take that on. It also says absolutely nothing about their competency. Outright banning female refs from men's games is pretty archaic, and shouldn't play to the LCD of male players.
Well, there are Female Refs in the NBA...
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:32 PM   #18
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Wow, i thought they would be past this?
just sad to see.
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:06 AM   #19
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Kansas eh? Someone go Children of the Corn on their asses...
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:16 AM   #20
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Damn that mid-American bible belt. I'll tell you this, if women were allowed to vote there, you would never see this garbage happening.
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