Conservatives Given a 'D' in Accountability...

[Devils'Advocate]

The government has failed to follow through on accountability promises it used to gain office, critics from both the NDP and the advocacy group Democracy Watch said yesterday on the first anniversary of the Conservatives' Federal Accountability Act.New Democrat MP Pat Martin said the government has taken too long to implement much of the bill and still needs to crack down on patronage appointments for political friends, make lobbyists accountable, reform Access to Information legislation and protect whistle-blowers.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/can...html?id=165001

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Basically, they lied about cleaning up Canadian politics. Which is great irony.

[Nehkara]

Of course. People had this illusion when they elected Harper that his government would actually clean up politics because they "promised". It's ridiculous. Since when have Conservative governments ever been clean? They're the WORST. Always in bed with big business.

Elect someone worthwhile next time and maybe some change will be seen.

/rant over

[llama64]

Every party lies their way into power. Which is why it's ridiculous for anyone to support any political party. But, given the current system of government, we don't have much choice.

I can't find a story about it, but apparently the Alberta PC's got an "E-".

[llama64]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

Of course. People had this illusion when they elected Harper that his government would actually clean up politics because they "promised". It's ridiculous. Since when have Conservative governments ever been clean? They're the WORST. Always in bed with big business.

Elect someone worthwhile next time and maybe some change will be seen.

/rant over

Heh... hehe. Talk to Jean Chretien next time you're out east.

[Mike F]

While I wholeheartedly agree, the fact that the NDP are one of the ones trumpeting this finding leaves a big grain of salt lodged in my mouth.

Can you ever really take one political party's evaluation of another as honest and unbiased?

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

Of course. People had this illusion when they elected Harper that his government would actually clean up politics because they "promised". It's ridiculous. Since when have Conservative governments ever been clean? They're the WORST. Always in bed with big business.

Elect someone worthwhile next time and maybe some change will be seen.

/rant over

Elect someone worthwhile. Is this comedy hour? Like the other two bozo's wouldn't feed at the trough. Do yourself a favor and ignore politics and politicians -- they are full of crap!!!!

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Elect someone worthwhile. Is this comedy hour? Like the other two bozo's wouldn't feed at the trough. Do yourself a favor and ignore politics and politicians -- they are full of crap!!!!

I agree... keep my blood pressure down.

[worth]

Liberal Conservative, it doesn't matter. Two sides of the same coin and they work for the same interests.

And there is something we can do about our current political process. It's called a revolution.

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by worth

Liberal Conservative, it doesn't matter. Two sides of the same coin and they work for the same interests.

And there is something we can do about our current political process. It's called a revolution.

Are you talkin bout a revolution ???

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

Of course. People had this illusion when they elected Harper that his government would actually clean up politics because they "promised". It's ridiculous. Since when has any government ever been clean?

Fixed.

[maverickeastwood]

It's all theatrics when we go to the polls anyway. When you have political leaders from opposing parties attending closed door meetings to talk about whatever they talk about, it makes you wonder. Damn Bilderbergers.

[MarchHare]

Why am I not surprised. If this thread had been about the Chretien/Martin governments receiving a D in accountability, there'd be dozens of posts spanning multiple pages telling us about how terrible the "fiberals" are. But because it's about the CPC, the theme of the thread is to say, "Hey, every party is dishonest. Our guys are no worse than their opposition."

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by Mike F

While I wholeheartedly agree, the fact that the NDP are one of the ones trumpeting this finding leaves a big grain of salt lodged in my mouth.

Can you ever really take one political party's evaluation of another as honest and unbiased?

The evaluation was by "Democracy Watch", an independant group that rated the Conservatives as the #1 choice for accountability in the last election. The NDP are only taking the new report and discussing it. Perhaps you would prefer that they throw it in a closet and hide it? Maybe the Conservative party will table it in the house of commons. Right.

[llama64]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Why am I not surprised. If this thread had been about the Chretien/Martin governments receiving a D in accountability, there'd be dozens of posts spanning multiple pages telling us about how terrible the "fiberals" are. But because it's about the CPC, the theme of the thread is to say, "Hey, every party is dishonest. Our guys are no worse than their opposition."

Well, yeah.
Most of this board's members are Albertan. Albertans are generally Conservatives. We understand politics as a team sport, so every thought is biased into supporting our team, even if the team ain't doing so hot.

Nature of the beast

I for one would love to see the abolishment of the party system and get some real regional representation. I find it disgusting at a Member of Parliament can be thrown out of the caucus for voting in the interests of their constituents against a party supported bill. It's two faced and evil.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

The evaluation was by "Democracy Watch", an independant group that rated the Conservatives as the #1 choice for accountability in the last election. The NDP are only taking the new report and discussing it. Perhaps you would prefer that they throw it in a closet and hide it? Maybe the Conservative party will table it in the house of commons. Right.

Throw it in the garbage would be the proper choice for a load of manure!!!!

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Throw it in the garbage would be the proper choice for a load of manure!!!!

Sweet. JohnnyFlame is going to explain how this report is a load of manure. This should be good.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Sweet. JohnnyFlame is going to explain how this report is a load of manure. This should be good.

Jack Layton... is that you ?!

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Jack Layton... is that you ?!

No, but I have voted for Jack's party 4 of the last 5 times out. I still don't see who I have supported in the past has anything to do with a lack of whistle blower protection, the power of big money lobbyists growing instead of being neutered, and prime patronage appointments by the Conservatives. Sounds like pork, pork and pork to me.

[guzzy]

I am still trying to find this disillusionment some of you talk about. The conservatives in two years have lived up to more promises than the liberals did in 13 years. That, to me, is accountability. The left wing nut jobs and their socialist counterparts that want to think otherwise just can't grasp the fact that for this nation to be successful the gov't needs to be run like a business.

[MarchHare]

The conservatives in two years have lived up to more promises than the liberals did in 13 years.

Yeah, remember when Harper promised in the last election how a Conservative government would never tax income trusts. That was great.

Look, there it is! Printed on page 32 of the Conservative Party's 2006 election platform document:

http://www.conservative.ca/media/20060113-Platform.pdf

A Conservative government will:
• Stop the Liberal attack on retirement savings and preserve income trusts by not imposing any new taxes on them.

Whoops!

But surely Conservatives here in Calgary, right in the heartland of CPC territory would forgive that little fib, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF3tGU0yRdQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_lb5eOrZDI