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Old 12-06-2007, 09:00 AM   #1
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Interesting read...

Im sure theres some jokes in there and Im sure some will take offense to the findings.

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Where you worship — and whether you worship at all — could be connected to your likelihood of straying from your marriage vows. People who identify with a faith group are less likely to cheat on their spouses than those with no religious affiliation, a new study has found. But even among the religious set, the odds vary according to denomination.


“What matters the most is being involved in a religious organization,” says Amy Burdette, co-author of the study and a post-doctoral scholar at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “Those who attend church more are less likely to cheat, and those who have more conservative views of the Bible are less likely to cheat.”


That said, Baptists are one-third less likely to wander than those with no religious affiliation, researchers found, and Catholics display similar odds. Moderate Protestants such as Presbyterians and Lutherans have 37 per cent lower odds of cheating than the unaffiliated, while liberal Protestants such as those in the United and Anglican churches are 31 per cent more faithful.


Non-traditional conservative groups such as Mormons or Jehovah’s Witnesses display no less likelihood of cheating than people with no religious affiliation.


“That was a little bit surprising, considering you think of these conservative religious groups as having stricter teachings about sexuality,” Burdette says.


Those belonging to “other” faiths, such as Judaism and Islam, also carry the same odds of infidelity as non-religious people, the researchers say.


The study, published in the December issue of the Journal of Family Issues, categorized faiths according to the American spiritual landscape.



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Old 12-06-2007, 09:13 AM   #2
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What you really want to know is if those who describe themselves as agnostic or atheist, often accused of lacking a moral foundation, cheat more or less than those who describe themselves as having a religious affiliation.

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"also carry the same odds of infidelity as non-religious people"


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Old 12-06-2007, 09:38 AM   #4
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I agree with Cowperson. There is a big difference between an agnostic and/or atheist and someone of 'no religous affiliation'. MANY MANY people, especially in the states, are very spiritual (or whatever they call themsevles) without being affiliated with any one religion.

In fact one may have no affiliation where they once had an affiliation because of the cheating itself?


Also, this could be saying more about the willingness of non-affiliated to ADMIT to cheating than it is about the ACTUAL number of cheaters.



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Old 12-06-2007, 09:45 AM   #5
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Am I the only one here that thinks the Catholics would have had a better rating if the Kennedys were of a different faith?
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:47 AM   #6
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I wonder how many people are "Stuck in a Religon" vs people "Stuck in a marriage"
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:50 AM   #7
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What you really want to know is if those who describe themselves as agnostic or atheist, often accused of lacking a moral foundation, cheat more or less than those who describe themselves as having a religious affiliation.

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I thought I saw a recent study showing that such people actually cheated less - will see if I can find the link.

After doing divorce law for 10 years, I can tell you far more people are cheating than the polls show.
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:57 AM   #8
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Also, this could be saying more about the willingness of non-affiliated to ADMIT to cheating than it is about the ACTUAL number of cheaters.

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Agreed, and studies have shown that even in an anonymous study people will still lie.

Plus even if the rate of cheating is lower, it doesn't speak to WHY it's lower. Is it lower because people are better behaving, or is it lower because people are in more fear of the ridicule they'll get from their church and people they know in the church and the church itself.

I went to one service where one of the members got called up to the front (I'm pretty sure she knew about it before hand and agreed to it though, at least I hope so). She had gotten pregnant out of wedlock, and the church wanted to pray for her so she would get forgiveness for her sin. She looked humiliated. Sure that kind of thing will dissuade others from doing similar things, but not because of a sense of what's right and wrong but out of fear.
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:59 AM   #9
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"After doing divorce law for 10 years, I can tell you far more people are cheating than the polls show."

ROFL.. Maybe you had a skewd sample?... I figure people who don't cheat, won't normally end up at the divorce lawyers
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:12 AM   #10
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What you really want to know is if those who describe themselves as agnostic or atheist, often accused of lacking a moral foundation, cheat more or less than those who describe themselves as having a religious affiliation.

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How about Believers vs Non Believers. I think there are probably a great number of Believers that aren't necessarily affiliated with a particular church.
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Old 12-06-2007, 11:12 AM   #11
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All I know is this has helped me prioritize which churches I should target while prowling for married chicks and which ones to avoid.
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All I know is this has helped me priritize which churches I should target while prowling for married chicks and which ones to avoid.

You'd prolly have a better chance the husband "turning the other cheek" and not beating the hell outta you too... Although, that may be proportional to the chances of her cheating so it could still be a coin toss..
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:27 PM   #13
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With a name like "journal of Family Issues", I figured it would be some kooky bunch of "Focus On The Family" types. It ain't. It seems to be a real thing.

Anyway, I once was mixed up with a Mormon dame who came from a pious little Southern Alberta town. There was all sorts of judging, frowning, nose-turning upping, preaching and whatnot in her family, but behind closed doors it was like low-rent Dynasty down there. Divorces, drinking, screwing around, sneaking out, getting caught(they all got caught), visiting a far-off aunt for 9 months, walks of shame, you name it.

These people were a lot more fun than any of the atheist types I know.
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Anyway, I once was mixed up with a Mormon dame who came from a pious little Southern Alberta town. There was all sorts of judging, frowning, nose-turning upping, preaching and whatnot in her family, but behind closed doors it was like low-rent Dynasty down there. Divorces, drinking, screwing around, sneaking out, getting caught(they all got caught), visiting a far-off aunt for 9 months, walks of shame, you name it.

These people were a lot more fun than any of the atheist types I know.
LMAO, sounds like it...
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:20 PM   #15
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....Which is why divorce rates are at an all-time high. The institution of marriage is falling apart slowly, as more people are realizing that it isn't the bread-and-butter it's made out to be. There are finances, social networks, personal dreams, family demands, infidelity, and a whole host of other reasons for divorcing or just staying single.

This, IMO, just goes to show that because we have such an advanced lifestyle, we are spending more time contemplating things the little things in life that make us happy or depressed. I'd say that 50 years ago, you would get married, stay loyal, and go about doing the business that you need to do to stay alive and prosper. Nowadays, our social and work lives have melded to the point where there is no clear dichotomy, and we are prioritizing that which gets us through the day much differently.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:01 PM   #16
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Female Infidelity and Paternal Uncertainty

Evolutionary Perspectives on Male Anti-####oldry Tactics

http://www.cup.cam.ac.uk/catalogue/c...1607346&ss=exc

In most cultures, marriage vows entail the promise of fidelity and lifelong commitment. In principle, marriage vows are a contract – a reproductive contract – between two individuals to maintain both emotional and sexual fidelity to one another ‘til death do them part.’ Monogamy. There are few species that maintain monogamous relationships between the sexes. It is commonly believed that males are more promiscuous, but new research is shedding light on the prominence of female infidelity as well as the consequences of such behavior.

Female infidelity is common in the animal kingdom as well as among humans. According to an analysis of 280 000 paternity tests conducted in 1999 by the American Association of Blood Banks, approximately 30% of children are fathered by extra-pair copulations; that is, 30% of children in this sample were fathered by someone other than the woman’s long-term romantic partner.

Current estimates of extra-pair paternity (paternity by someone other than the putative and domestic father, or ####oldry) are between 1 and 30%, with the best estimate at about 10% (Baker & Bellis, 1995; Cerda-Flores et al., 1999; Neale, Neale, & Sullivan, 2002; Sasse et al., 1994; Sykes & Irven, 2000). In other words, approximately 1 in 10 children are the product of female infidelity.

These "scientists" obviously ignored the data from Montel and Maury.

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Old 12-06-2007, 02:07 PM   #17
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I cant speak for other religions. But the average infrastructred KJB Church person isnt a religious person at all. Most go for the social gathering aspect and because their parents did so they do (and because like the 10$ donation to kids in Africa etc, it makes them feel better about themselves).

In the KJB Church, the simple act of lust is considered cheating, not the physical act (although that too). Hell, I am cheating right now just thinking about the hottie in the +15 I passed at lunch, is that cheating even though I am not married but dating someone - who kows
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience.

Barna's results verified findings of earlier polls: that conservative Protestant Christians, on average, have the highest divorce rate, while mainline Christians have a much lower rate. They found some new information as well: that atheists and agnostics have the lowest divorce rate of all. George Barna commented that the results raise "questions regarding the effectiveness of how churches minister to families." The data challenge "the idea that churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for marriage."

Donald Hughes, author of The Divorce Reality, said:
"In the churches, people have a superstitious view that Christianity will keep them from divorce, but they are subject to the same problems as everyone else, and they include a lack of relationship skills. ...Just being born again is not a rabbit's foot."

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Thanks for posting that Trout, in the last few years I've read other reports stating exactly that infidels have less divorce rate, commit less crime, etc..

Always going the opposite way most religious people would assume
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Could be any number of reasons why the divorce rate is higher among "religous" people then atheists...

Would it be possilbe that "Religous" people get more pressure from family/friends/church to marry? Maybe more get married then would have without that pressure?

Maybe the social oppertunites provided by like minded people in church, increases people exposure to others like them and give them more oppertunite to cheat?

Maybe social stigma attached to "SEX" in a church, makes extramarital sex seem more exciting.

Maybe it has to do with economic factors and some corelation between that and typical christian vs.other faith groups?

Who knows... Just throwing out some possible reasons other then the obvious...
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