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Old 11-05-2007, 02:20 PM   #1
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That would be something. The boo's at Yankee Stadium would be astronomical. Imagine facing a 3-4-5 lineup of Ortiz, Ramirez, Rodriguez.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:45 PM   #2
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That'd be the dumbest thing A-Rod could do.

He's going to get his cash anywhere. That's not a huge issue. However, if he goes to Boston and wins a ring it does nothing to change the perception the public has of A-Rod. They've won without him before and will probably win in the future without him as well.

He'd be better off going to the Cubs or the Angels and still getting crazy money, but being able to actually carve out a much better legend for himself.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:48 PM   #3
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Can A-Rods ego handle him being a #5 hitter? The chemistry of Ortiz 3rd and Ramirez 4th with another guy being behind them has worked really well. If A-Rod comes in will that affect the dynamics? Most thought Gagner would take over that set up role and be lights out when he was acquired. That looked good on paper but was a disaster on the field.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:04 PM   #4
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Somehow I don't think the Sox need another ego on their team. They have good chemistry right now and messing with it would be a mistake IMO. That and the media pressure will be no different than it was in NY.
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Somehow I don't think the Sox need another ego on their team. They have good chemistry right now and messing with it would be a mistake IMO. That and the media pressure will be no different than it was in NY.
I agree, A-ROD and team chemistry don't seem to go together but If I remember correctly the RedSox 3rd baseman is unrestricted.

Would have to figure the Redsox will be looking for 3rd baseman. Plus the RedSox did trade for ARod once before only to have the deal fall through.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:26 PM   #6
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That'd be the dumbest thing A-Rod could do.

He's going to get his cash anywhere. That's not a huge issue. However, if he goes to Boston and wins a ring it does nothing to change the perception the public has of A-Rod. They've won without him before and will probably win in the future without him as well.
Even worse, if he went there and they didn't win it. That would firmly entrench him as a play-off loser/non-preformer.

From the Red Sox point of view, if they do this then their would be no doubt that they are every bit as bad as the Yankees when it comes to overspending. (Not that there should be any doubt now, but some seem to think otherwise.) Also I am not sure that their fanbase would be all that happy with the move. Obviously temas have to do what they think is right from a baseball perspective and not a fan perspective, but with the team they have I am not sure it would be worth it to take the chance and add A-ROD. Again if they did and din't win the fallout would be huge for both parties.
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I agree, A-ROD and team chemistry don't seem to go together but If I remember correctly the RedSox 3rd baseman is unrestricted.

Would have to figure the Redsox will be looking for 3rd baseman. Plus the RedSox did trade for ARod once before only to have the deal fall through.
The Yankees and their huge collection of egos is another reason why the Sox shouldn't go this route. All that Yankee spending didn't amount to many WS victories.

A Rod would be better off on a team where his ego wouldn't conflict with others. That and the pressure for him to produce - especialy in the playoffs - would be enourmous. He'd be run out of town if he had another playoff performance like did in these last playoffs.
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The Yankees and their huge collection of egos is another reason why the Sox shouldn't go this route. All that Yankee spending didn't amount to many WS victories.

A Rod would be better off on a team where his ego wouldn't conflict with others. That and the pressure for him to produce - especialy in the playoffs - would be enourmous. He'd be run out of town if he had another playoff performance like did in these last playoffs.
And I think that's an impossibility. Seattle, Texas and NewYork all discovered how much fun the A Rod ego was to deal with.
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And I think that's an impossibility. Seattle, Texas and NewYork all discovered how much fun the A Rod ego was to deal with.
Fair enough.
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The Yankees and their huge collection of egos is another reason why the Sox shouldn't go this route. All that Yankee spending didn't amount to many WS victories.
I agree, although 4 WS titles in more or less the last decade is not too shabby!
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:56 AM   #11
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Very interesting insight - especially the post by moon saying if Arod went there and they didnt win a WS.

If ARod does sign in Boston, can they really afford to have him? I mean I know it's a bottomless pit, but Ortiz, Rameriz, ARod, Beckett, Dice-K, and JD Drew all make big time money. Schilling was just reupped for $8 million (1 year). ARod's signing would officially hand the torch of the evil empire to Boston.

Personally, I think the Giants should make a big run at ARod. They need someone to fill the seats in their ballpark, theyre used to big egos, another homerun chase would be nice and that team doesnt have a centerpiece anymore (plus, I would be able to see him play a lot).

Anaheim, Texas, LA, Florida (ugh), and the Giants seem to be the front runners, but you never know who might come out of the woodwork.
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Very interesting insight - especially the post by moon saying if Arod went there and they didnt win a WS.

If ARod does sign in Boston, can they really afford to have him? I mean I know it's a bottomless pit, but Ortiz, Rameriz, ARod, Beckett, Dice-K, and JD Drew all make big time money. Schilling was just reupped for $8 million (1 year). ARod's signing would officially hand the torch of the evil empire to Boston.

Personally, I think the Giants should make a big run at ARod. They need someone to fill the seats in their ballpark, theyre used to big egos, another homerun chase would be nice and that team doesnt have a centerpiece anymore (plus, I would be able to see him play a lot).

Anaheim, Texas, LA, Florida (ugh), and the Giants seem to be the front runners, but you never know who might come out of the woodwork.
how on earth could florida be a front runner? They sell every piece of talent they have.
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how on earth could florida be a front runner? They sell every piece of talent they have.
It's been widely reported on ESPN that the Marlins are very interested and have met with Boras. I didnt understand it either, but apparently they are.
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I've seen it in a couple places as well.

I just don't get it, the team doesn't bring in any money ... but its a good fit for AROD, they aren't a winner.
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I've seen it in a couple places as well.

I just don't get it, the team doesn't bring in any money ... but its a good fit for AROD, they aren't a winner.
Perhaps to get that long term superstar to give fans interests and a new stadium? I think it would be ARod's safety franchise, but who knows... he is from and maintains a place in Florida.

Like I said before, Im hoping for the Giants, but I think it's going to be Dodgers or Angels.
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Florida is getting a new stadium, and would want a superstar to draw fans
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Florida is getting a new stadium, and would want a superstar to draw fans

New Stadium - $300M - Check.
New Superstar - $350M - Check.

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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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I've seen it in a couple places as well.

I just don't get it, the team doesn't bring in any money ... but its a good fit for AROD, they aren't a winner.
I often look back and see that the MARLINS have won TWO World Series and shake my head.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:19 AM   #19
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Just curious about trading players in the MLB...lets say Florida wanted to sell off their young stars can they make cash part of the deal.

Example:

Player X for 2nd round pick & $1,000,000 cash.

I know in the NHL you can't, but I just don't know much about the MLB rules on that.
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I don't think the Red Sox need A Rod. They should focus on re-signing Lowell.
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