09-17-2007, 11:19 AM
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Had an idea!
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SpiralFrog Music Site Launches Monday
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...K835LsqzAjCT2A
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — SpiralFrog.com, an ad-supported Web site that allows visitors to download music and videos free of charge, was scheduled to launch Monday in the U.S. and Canada after months of "beta" testing.
The music service, which has arranged to pay record companies a cut of its advertising revenue, aims to lure music fans who normally flock to online file-swapping networks to share and download music for free. The recording industry has sued thousands of computer users for doing so in recent years.
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Anyone going to try it out?
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09-17-2007, 11:35 AM
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#3
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Yeah, I'll give it a shot.. seems to be a playforsure service so iPods (and the 3 people who own a Zune) are out.
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09-17-2007, 11:45 AM
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Had an idea!
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Is it restricted in any way from copying...and stuff like that?
What does ad-support mean?
Site is sloooooooow....
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09-17-2007, 11:47 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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The music is all DRMed WMA files, so no copying at all. You have to have a player that supports Playforsure to get these songs onto that device.
Ad supported just means there's ads on the site and that's where they get the money to pay the copyright holders.
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09-17-2007, 11:50 AM
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Had an idea!
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Well I won't use it much if I can't copy the songs.
Good idea though with the ad thingy....
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09-17-2007, 11:56 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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If you don't log onto the site within 30 days all your music is deactivated. You cannot burn any of these to CDs, and can transfer them to at most 2 mobile players that support Microsoft's DRM (no iPods for you).
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09-17-2007, 12:08 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead
If you don't log onto the site within 30 days all your music is deactivated. You cannot burn any of these to CDs, and can transfer them to at most 2 mobile players that support Microsoft's DRM (no iPods for you).
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And they wonder why people steal music.
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09-17-2007, 12:18 PM
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Had an idea!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnes
And they wonder why people steal music.
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Exactly.
I wonder how long its going to take before they figure it out.
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09-17-2007, 12:19 PM
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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Personally, I'm opposed to the theft of intellectual property. I don't care if others do it, so please don't flame me. It's a personal choice is all.
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09-17-2007, 12:37 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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Well the issue is, if you purchase music, you should be able to use it on as many players as you wish, on as many computers that you own, etc.
Yes, there are copy write owners, but they get their money from you when you purchase the music.
The whole idea of DRM and locked music files is more detrimental to the record companies. If I purchase a CD, or a music file from some place on-line, I want to be able to play it on my computer, ipod, zune, media center, phone what ever. I purchased it, and I don't think I need to keep paying the record label for each device I put it on.
With the whole DRM / locked music files, they are restricting the use of files you have purchased legally. So you have less freedom than you would if you downloaded the music as an mp3.
It pretty much is a tax on a tax for legally purchasing music. It's just going to push more and more file sharing under ground.
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09-17-2007, 12:38 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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so if your restricted to pretty much listening on your computer (unless u have a playforsure player) isn't it just easier to listen to music off of youtube or finetunes or something?
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09-17-2007, 12:41 PM
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Franchise Player
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I agree with you arsenal. I bought a CD last year that I couldn't rip onto my computer. I only listen to music that is on my iPod or my computer. I rarely use CD's anymore. Even my iPod hooks up to my car stereo. So since I can't put it on my iPod or computer I never listen to it. I know that band got my money for that CD, but that's the last cent they will be getting from me. They are really just shooting themselves in the foot and punishing the people who legally buy their music.
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09-17-2007, 12:42 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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it's almost like record companies are turning into what Microsoft was about 10 years ago. Before all the anti-trust law suits came around. I wonder if the same type of thing could happen to the record labels.
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09-17-2007, 12:46 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford Prefect
Personally, I'm opposed to the theft of intellectual property. I don't care if others do it, so please don't flame me. It's a personal choice is all.
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Well at this point it isn't theft in Canada, the levy on blank media (and soon audio players) goes to the CRIA which they distribute to the copyright holders.
Which is funny, because they're now lobbying against those levies which they lobied so hard for, becuase it's getting in the way of suing downloaders.
They want it both ways, they won't be happy until you pay for every time you listen to a song.
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/15...to-canada.html
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09-17-2007, 12:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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This was posted a few days ago.
Downloading music isn't illegal if you burn it to media which has had a levy paid.
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=13664#more-13664
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09-17-2007, 03:25 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnes
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Really? Wow, thats interesting. I imagine the record companies arent fans of that at all.
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09-17-2007, 05:30 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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lol DRM WMA files? I can use this site for my BROWN Zune!
Crickets.
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09-17-2007, 05:53 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Juventus3
lol DRM WMA files? I can use this site for my BROWN Zune!
Crickets.
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Zune isn't compliant with Playsforsure DRM, so nope, can't use iPod or a Zune for these.
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—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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