CFL Contact Email?

[Harbourmouth]

Anyone know of a contact for the CFL? The reffing in this league is a joke. I am sick of handing my money over to this league only to have a bunch of morons determine a game when they should have no bearing on it.

[ricoFlame]

i have no idea what the email is, but when you find out, don't forget to use bold red font and CAPS.

[Harbourmouth]

I will no longer be getting season tickets next season. This is an asbolute joke. This is a league-wide issue that rares it's ugly head every game. Why in the name of god the CFL refuses to acknowledge this is beyond me. I can no longer blindly support a league that refuses to listen to it's paying customers.

[transplant99]

Best I could find.

http://www.cfl.ca/index.php?module=page&id=125

[browna]

As said in the other thread, completely expected that the silent CFL commisioner Uncle Hugh Campbell lodged an informal complaint and paid an unofficial visit to refs locker room at half time to give his "ideas" on the two ejections and offer an ultimatium or two.

Pretty much the only way that those penalties in the 4th can be explained.

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by browna

As said in the other thread, completely expected that the silent CFL commisioner Uncle Hugh Campbell lodged an informal complaint and paid an unofficial visit to refs locker room at half time to give his "ideas" on the two ejections and offer an ultimatium or two.

Pretty much the only way that those penalties in the 4th can be explained.

Gass' ejection was completely justified. Any player caught throwing equipment on the field of play gets an immediate ejection.

While the reffing wasn't great, I would like you guys to go out there and try to do it. I would actually like to see any of you actually know the rule book enough to try it. Reffing a football game is not exactly the easiest thing to do.

[transplant99]

While the reffing wasn't great, I would like you guys to go out there and try to do it. I would actually like to see any of you actually know the rule book enough to try it. Reffing a football game is not exactly the easiest thing to do.

Right...I guess it is to much to expect paid professionals to do some semblance of a fair and balanced job....because its too hard.

Give me a break.

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Right...I guess it is to much to expect paid professionals to do some semblance of a fair and balanced job....because its too hard.

Give me a break.

They call what they see. Some of the calls were brutal but you also have to understand some of the rules are brutal as well. The roughing the kicker/passer penalties as they are currently written are complete garbage. You poke them and its a roughing penatly currently in the CFL.

[browna]

Originally Posted by cSpooge

They call what they see. Some of the calls were brutal but you also have to understand some of the rules are brutal as well. The roughing the kicker/passer penalties as they are currently written are complete garbage. You poke them and its a roughing penatly currently in the CFL.

Roughing the passer is meant to be shots to the head. The easiest way to see that is see in the QB's helmet snaps back or gets jarred in anyway. In both cases, it was clear, in slow mo and in regular speed, that no part of the Stamps player made contact wit Ray's hemlet.

And there's a rule in the book..."Running into the kicker". A fair bit different then running over a kicker as he's following though, which is what roughing the kicker rule was meant to protect. When a guy dives and rolls into a kicker, 99/100 times thats called by refs running into a kicker. A 5yd penalty, no automatic first down...in the case the former was called and it gave the Eskimos a 3rd life on that drive.

[HOOT]

Its the CFL, just like their players the refs are second rate and will make mistakes.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by cSpooge

Gass' ejection was completely justified. Any player caught throwing equipment on the field of play gets an immediate ejection.

While the reffing wasn't great, I would like you guys to go out there and try to do it. I would actually like to see any of you actually know the rule book enough to try it. Reffing a football game is not exactly the easiest thing to do.

I do and have.

You are making a mistake to assume that everyone holds the refs personally accountable as if they are dumb human beings.

They do a bad job, but it's fault lies in that there really isn't a comparable product they can train themselves at (CIAU is far below professional) and the CFL doesn't invest is a great training program.

And lastly, and maybe most important is that Football Canada and Football Alberta (not sure about other jurisdictions) have had serious trouble in recruiting refs. They should be targetting the smart kids who are done ball on an informal basis but best I can tell they have been quite passive as it relates to recruiting.

[Bench Warmer]

Originally Posted by Harbourmouth

I will no longer be getting season tickets next season. This is an asbolute joke. This is a league-wide issue that rares it's ugly head every game. Why in the name of god the CFL refuses to acknowledge this is beyond me. I can no longer blindly support a league that refuses to listen to it's paying customers.

So, in a gate driven league, you're going to hurt the Stamps revenue (I assume you're a Stamps seasons holder) because of reffing you don't agree with? Solid decision making there.

I agree the reffing was bad last night (that roughing the kicker call was one of the worst calls I have ever seen) but you're hurting the Stamps by not renewing your tickets, that's all.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Bench Warmer

So, in a gate driven league, you're going to hurt the Stamps revenue (I assume you're a Stamps seasons holder) because of reffing you don't agree with? Solid decision making there.

I agree the reffing was bad last night (that roughing the kicker call was one of the worst calls I have ever seen) but you're hurting the Stamps by not renewing your tickets, that's all.

So if he doesn't enjoy watching CFL games you are suggesting he should buy CFL tickets? Now that's solid.

If enough people 'hurt' their local team there will be enough pressure to the teams who will then apply pressure to the league to get it right.

It's the most logical decision you could make.

[Bench Warmer]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

So if he doesn't enjoy watching CFL games you are suggesting he should buy CFL tickets? Now that's solid.

If enough people 'hurt' their local team there will be enough pressure to the teams who will then apply pressure to the league to get it right.

It's the most logical decision you could make.

For me personally, I enjoy watching the CFL no matter what the reffing is like which is normally fairly decent. I can tell you right now there won't be nearly enough people that will stop going to games because of the bad reffing here and there to make any impact at all. That's logical - it's reality.

The CFL is working on improving their refereeing - this will be another instance where improvement is needed. It sucked all @$$ last night but it's 10 times better now than what it was 3 years ago.

But hey, if Harbourmouth decides to stop going to the games, that's his choice. But he's hurting the Stamps more than he's hurting the CFL. Despite the frustrations with the reffing, league popularity is higher now than it's been in years and is increasing.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Bench Warmer

For me personally, I enjoy watching the CFL no matter what the reffing is like which is normally fairly decent. I can tell you right now there won't be nearly enough people that will stop going to games because of the bad reffing here and there to make any impact at all. That's logical - it's reality.

The CFL is working on improving their refereeing - this will be another instance where improvement is needed. It sucked all @$$ last night but it's 10 times better now than what it was 3 years ago.

But hey, if Harbourmouth decides to stop going to the games, that's his choice. But he's hurting the Stamps more than he's hurting the CFL. Despite the frustrations with the reffing, league popularity is higher now than it's been in years and is increasing.

Well the fans have been sending the very message that Harbourmouth wants to send for decades now. Think about it, all sports have seemingly grown by leaps and bounds ... except CFL football. The stadiums are old and decaying, attendance is mediocre at best. Maybe not enough people have sent that message. It's small to think that one person doesn't make a difference. If enough people think like Harbourmouth then that will make a difference.

And to me the reffing has been getting worse every year for many years, and we are setting new depths this year especially.

[Harbourmouth]

Originally Posted by Bench Warmer

So, in a gate driven league, you're going to hurt the Stamps revenue (I assume you're a Stamps seasons holder) because of reffing you don't agree with? Solid decision making there.

I agree the reffing was bad last night (that roughing the kicker call was one of the worst calls I have ever seen) but you're hurting the Stamps by not renewing your tickets, that's all.

Yes, it is a solid decision. I am paying to see a PROFESSIONAL product decided by professional athletese on a level playing field. I am not getting that. You might blindly piss your money away, but I don't.

All I want for the league is to acknowledge there is a problem or for Ted Hellard to blasts the refs in the medium to atleast show the fans someone cares and is listening to them. This won't happen though. The CFL has their head up their ass and if Hellard says anything he's going to get punished by the CFL and the refs will just make even worse calls against his team.

Am I hurting the Stamps by not going to the games anymore? Yes. Do I care? ABSOLUTELY NOT! By going to Stamps game I am directly supporting the CFL. The CFL makes a mockery of professional sports each week now and i'm not going to support it. Given the increasingly empty number of seats each game at McMahon, I don't think i'm the only one either.

[calf]

Games like last night piss me off to no end. A game that should've been, and could've been decided by 2 teams duking it out on the field gets tainted by poor reffing, again.

I grew up with the CFL, love the game, but a game like that makes it harder to support the league...I haven't turned my back on the league, not at all...but it's tougher to be as passionate when it's the same issues over, and over, and over again.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

attendance is mediocre at best.

Based on what, exactly? In the last 10 years attendance is up in Winnipeg, Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal. And it's about the same in Calgary and Regina. Hamilton is the only one down, and I think that has to do with the multiple years of 0-4, 0-7, etc starts.

[Flames in 07]

Based on Football around the continent. If run right CFL could have 40k / game attendance easy. They probably avg abour 28 or so around the league dispite the lack of credibility in the league, awful facilities and scheduling problems.

Watch what will happen to attendance in Wpg when they build that new stadium.

It may be up from 10 years ago, but it is still very lack luster

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Right...I guess it is to much to expect paid professionals to do some semblance of a fair and balanced job....because its too hard.

Give me a break.

The thing is that there isn't enough money to be paid to these guys for them to become professionals. IMO the head referee makes 950 a game and I think the other guys are like 650. So again you get what you pay for. I mean in Canada now you can't live on 17 grand a year even if it's a part time job. Chances are the guys career as a salesman or accountant is far more important and most of these guys don't really need to referee. Even the NFL which is richer than half the countries on this planet only recently went to full time officials and still pays it's guys like 100 grand a year IIRC. Being a football referee is crappy work that pays even worse.

I think football is a miserable game to try and officiate as there are rule violations on pretty much every single play. It's trying to determine which ones were flagerant enough to call. CFL player in particular are bad because well....if they could be effective playing by the rules...they might be NFL calibre.