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Old 01-28-2013, 09:35 PM   #1
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So a coworker of mine who by no means was out of shape, swears by this book and has given it a go, and lost 15 pounds in 3 weeks on the program. I've read the first 100 pages or so after he provided a copy to me, and I have to say, the author's reasoning is pretty sound for the most part, and I'm thinking of getting into it to give it a shot. What I like about it is that you have a cheat day every week, and you can eat as much as you like of certain foods to fill you, while completely avoiding others and supplimenting those with vitamins, so you're not starving like other diets, or completely busting your balls with 3 hours at the gym each day. It's an interesting concept, especially when someone you know personally has tried it and swears by it.

Anyone try it out?
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Any diet that works won't starve you, and any exercise program that is effective won't require you to spend 3 hours in the gym.

I'm not up to speed on what the book is about, but everyone that loses 'fat' has one thing in common. They burn more calories than they take in.

Eating healthy isn't rocket science. There is a wealth of information on the internet, and anyone can figure out a proper diet plan in short order if they know where to look.

There is a wealth of resources here.

http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/s...ad.php?t=45975

Doesn't even require you to buy a book.
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I haven't heard of this, but my argument would be that these programs all have a long-winded way of saying the same thing- a caloric deficit leads to weight loss... The hardcore low calorie diets can work, but they are not sustainable or healthy, and a large number of participants gain back much of the weight.

I am a proponent of the common sense diet. Determine what your BMR is, add exercise and physical activity considerations, and then figure out how to have a caloric deficit of 7000 calories a week (2 pounds a week). This involves counting calories, but in my experience, it is possible to be fairly content on a (temporary) 2000 calorie diet (for men) plus moderate exercise. The key of course is discipline. Caloric intake can usually be increased to break even with your BMR (plus exercise etc) once you have achieved your desired weight.

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Old 01-28-2013, 10:04 PM   #4
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There's a thread on this book from a couple months back if you want to search.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:05 PM   #5
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It also helps getting involved in some kind of sport, instead of forcing yourself to sit on the bike 30 min per 4-5 days per week.

A 90 min game of hockey can easily burn over 1,000 calories.
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Interestingly, look at pictures of Tim Ferriss from a few years ago and compare them to pics of him now.

Yeah, he's a lot leaner ...but he also looks like death. Sunken eyes, pale, bald. I'd wager his metabolism is shot. IMO, he looked a lot healthier a few years ago before he 'discovered' his slow-carb diet.

Just my opinion. As others have stated, probably an easy way to create a short term caloric deficit and drop a few pounds though.
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Did you read the orgasm part?
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I'm currently in the process of starting this diet. I'll be starting in February. I'll post my results and stuff.

I'm looking forward to farting lots...more.
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You'll want to hang out with Calgary'89 a lot then.
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Did you read the orgasm part?
I am now very interested in this diet, please tell us more
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Quick synopsis:

It's cool and it works, but its unsustainable, so it doesn't work forever.
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My wife is on the orgasm diet.

I should join her.

For support and encouragement.
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It's more for the woman. He alleges a 15 minute orgasm.

The link is very not-safe-for-work. Or kids.

NSFW!
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South Beach Diet and The End To Illness are two other good books to read.

I wouldn't recommend following any diet 100% to the strict standards as everybody is different, your body will react differently than your co worker. The best way to go about it is to set realistic guidelines and stick to those.

A lot of these diet books have great fundamentals, the problem is they are so strict that straying just a little bit can cause people to fall off hard. The books I recommended are more about a lifestyle change.. It takes a lot of willpower and if it was easy everyone would be skinny.

Also no matter what lifestyle or diet you are following you should always enjoy the things in life that bring you pleasure.. in moderation. Except sex, breed like a rabbit.
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It's more for the woman. He alleges a 15 minute orgasm.
What a goof. That's at least 14 minutes that would be better spent drinking beer.
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Any diet that works won't starve you, and any exercise program that is effective won't require you to spend 3 hours in the gym.

I'm not up to speed on what the book is about, but everyone that loses 'fat' has one thing in common. They burn more calories than they take in.

Eating healthy isn't rocket science. There is a wealth of information on the internet, and anyone can figure out a proper diet plan in short order if they know where to look.

There is a wealth of resources here.

http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/s...ad.php?t=45975

Doesn't even require you to buy a book.

I haven't done this or read the book, so this is a little off-topic. I decided sort of on a whim to try counting calories a few days ago. I doubt its something I would do long term, but I was curious and frankly I was extremely surprised! I can't believe how little food worked out to like 2000 calories.

I would say that I found my issue though. I've been exercising a fair amount and making minimal progress. Clearly it comes down to diet, but I was still surprised.
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It gets worse when you start eating unhealthy food.

Chocolate Bar? 300 calories. And it doesn't exactly satisfy you.

List goes on from there.
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It gets worse when you start eating unhealthy food.

Chocolate Bar? 300 calories. And it doesn't exactly satisfy you.

List goes on from there.
Well thats the problem...I ate really clean! Last night at about 8pm though I was hungry for sure. I knew that I was just over 2000 calories though so I just drank some water and made it through.

I really don't know what I'm doing as far as this goes though. I just kind of fumble my way through at this point, so I'll have a look at that site you posted above for sure.
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Personally, I think you get used to it after a while. Your body will crave more calories because that is what it is used too.

It does get easier, but dealing with the cravings can be tough.

Drinking water does help. Eating some low calorie food like carrot sticks, or low calorie yogurt can help as well.

2100 calories won't make you fat, if the 100 extra calories at 8PM can help you beat the cravings.
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I started the 4 hour body "slow carb" diet this January. I really liked it. The "cheat" days are amazing and psychologically rewarding. IE, if your co-workers bring in a box of donuts to the office, you don't have to wait 3 months to eat one. Wait a few days and eat the whole box.

I've lost 15 lbs since Jan 1 (4 weeks) (from 210lbs to 195lbs). The one complaint that I have about the diet is for me, it is very difficult to play sports and do the diet. Muscle fatigue has been an issue for me. I play ball hockey twice a week and ice hockey twice a week. I'll be modifying the diet to include carbs on game days and a post-workout recovery drink.
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