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What ever turns you on Cow. Toss it out there if it makes you feel better. The comments in question were made three years ago, long before we had a pinch of the information we have now. Based on the information that was available I made those comments. Based on the information that has come available I have changed my stance accordingly. I would hope you have done the same as well.
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- Lanny MacDonald
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"So the good part about Bush winning..." thread, Lanny MacDonald invited me, as per above, to produce an e-mail Lanny had written myself on Oct. 10, 2001, only one month after 9/11. I'm an e-mail pack rat and discovered it while looking for something else last week and sent it to Lanny privately for a few yucks but also to call him to account.
It probably deserves a thread of its own.
In that e-mail written in the aftermath of 9/11, Lanny calls for taking out Saddam Hussein and Iraq, imposition of democratic elections, the bombing of Middle Eastern countries and the "re-education" of their citizens to our way of thinking. He makes no mention of waiting for UN approval. He also says George Bush will probably be too chicken to pursue the above agenda.
Pretty much a 180 degree turn on everything Lanny has said here in the last five months.
I've asked Lanny if he's a hypocrite given his current position. His answer is that "new information" changed his mind. I replied "what new information?" given he obviously fervently believed it. In fact, he was egging Bush on and didn't think he'd have the cojones to do it.
The e-mail for inquisitive minds:
-----Original Message-----
From: Lanny MacDonald
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 2:31 PM
To: XXXXXXX
Subject: Re: Good read
Excellent read! That was very well stated and used
some excellent historical references to back up the
point. I'm sort of on this side, but see the
situation being a harder to swallow win-win. I
suspect the following will have to shake out to find a
peaceful resolution before this goes to hell in a hand
basket (and I suspect we are very close to that
happening).
1. Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda must be brought to
justice. By justice I mean death, and in a fashion
that shows acknowledgement of the atrocities by the
Islamic faith. Justice by the blade in public view,
preferably in Mecca, Islam's most holy of places, and
by a Saudi executioner.
2. Removal of Saddam Hussein. Do the job right this
time and get this idiot out of power. Preferably bomb
his ass until he's dead, but placing him in a cell
with a big horny black guy named Abraham would be
sufficient. Open the country up to democratic
elections.
3. Clean out the Sudan. Get serious and hammer the
crap out these guys. Don't stop until every single
King Pin is dead or pleading to be Bill Clinton's love
slave.
4. The development of a Palestinian State. The
Americans are going to have to bite the bullet on this
one and side with the Arabs against the Jews. Not
really side with them, but play arbitrator that holds
the Isrealis in their seats, gun to head, while they
sign the accord granting homelands to the
Palestinians. They will then have to play peackeeper
for the forseeable future and make sure the Arabs and
Jews play nicely, and punish the offending party, even
if that offending party is eating a kosher happy meal.
5. Redevelopment of the Islamic nations. Don't just
bomb these countries back to the stoneage and leave
them in the dust, but go in and EDUCATE these people
and HELP them build up their countries again.
Education is the greatest weapon there is. Why are
people the way they are in fundamentalist Islamic
countries? Because they were taught to think and act
the way they do. Education is key to continued peace.
6. Work in concert with the rest of the world to
clean up the rest of the terrorist theat. Each
country has its own internal threat and those groups
need to be dealt with as well. Make terrorist morally
unacceptable in ALL regions of the world.
7. Everyone smoke some of that hasheesh that
Afgahnistan is so famous for and have a real big
party. Once you party with someone its pretty hard to
want to wipe them off the face of the earth.
Pretty simple, pretty straight forward, pretty
settling. The odds of this happening? Zero. The
United States will never abandon the Jewish cause in
the Middle East, even if it mean securing the security
of the North American continient for ever. Bush may
talk like this has a chance, but the Jewish lobby is
amazingly strong and has stopped many other efforts at
peace. It sucks, but that's the way the cookie
crumbles.
Cowperson
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