Poor Michael Moore. Must be cursing the slackers

[Bertuzzied]

Except for a montage of Bush, everything is gone.

www.michaelmoore.com

I wonder if he will move up to canada?

[CaptainCrunch]

Why if Kerry won, his movie scripts, book deals and everything else that he bases his anti republican viewpoints on would dry up, and he'd have to go back to making second tier films like Canadian Bacon

Now he's got at least another movie decrying that this election was fixed, followed by at least three more movies on Bush and his cohorts.

don't cry to hard for Michael Moore, he's looking at several millilion more dollars in his super sized jeans

[Igottago]

The guy obviously just fought very hard for something he completely believed in, and didn't get the result he wanted...I don't blame him for disappearing for a bit, its disappointing for a lot of people...I hope he comes back stronger than ever, 'cause obviously his country needs him

[Cowperson]

He had about 100 cameras at various polling stations yesterday looking for vote rigging so I sense another epic coming up.

I guess he's moving to Canada.

From polls I saw, Farenheit 9/11 didn't even blip the race, those who believed in the message watching it and those who didn't ignoring it. In the end, he was preaching to the converted who, fortunately for him, apparently had $100 million to spend.

Cowperson

[Mike F]

Originally posted by fotze@Nov 3 2004, 03:33 PM
Stolen from another site:

"I would save my venom for people like Michael Moore. Fahrenheit 9/11 cost....what? About as much as an average episode of Friends? It made over $100 million in the theaters and became the biggest selling DVD of 2004. And yet Moore continually refused to let it get a free showing prior to the election. He would only permit pay-per-view or pay webcasts. It shows where his priorities truly lie.

"Earlier this year, Moore argued that the most important thing was for Fahrenheit 9/11 to be seen. 'I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with downloading the movie and sharing it with people,' he said"

Consistent with this, there were a number of sites openly offering F9/11 for free and were never asked to discontinue by Moore or Lions Gate, despite the fact that it was widely reported in many mainstream news sources.

Guardian Article

[FlamesAddiction]

Moore looked the other way when this site came out:


http://www.bush-flipflop.com/f911.html

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally posted by fotze@Nov 3 2004, 11:33 PM
Stolen from another site:

"I would save my venom for people like Michael Moore. Fahrenheit 9/11 cost....what? About as much as an average episode of Friends? It made over $100 million in the theaters and became the biggest selling DVD of 2004. And yet Moore continually refused to let it get a free showing prior to the election. He would only permit pay-per-view or pay webcasts. It shows where his priorities truly lie.

"However, I doubt if Moore is doing an Oskar Schindler right now, agonizing over what more he could have done to change he election. Now he gets four more years of profitable bitching." -- Rich Swank.

Disinformation from another site. Moore refused to allow a free showing on network TV for the sole reason that it would be immediately disqualified from contention for an Academy Award. Moore believes he has a shot at Best Picture with F/911 (the first documentary style film to do so IIRC) and would not risk losing that chance. In fact, he withdrew his film from the documentary category to gain credability for it as a film against traditional productions (according to IMDB News). Money was not an issue with Moore, the politics of the Academy was.

[Daradon]

Yeah, there were lots of free showings of the film, even a few with Michael there I believe. I don't think Rich has his facts right.

[Coolsurfer79]

Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald+Nov 3 2004, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lanny_MacDonald @ Nov 3 2004, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-fotze@Nov 3 2004, 11:33 PM
Stolen from another site:

"I would save my venom for people like Michael Moore. Fahrenheit 9/11 cost....what? About as much as an average episode of Friends? It made over $100 million in the theaters and became the biggest selling DVD of 2004. And yet Moore continually refused to let it get a free showing prior to the election. He would only permit pay-per-view or pay webcasts. It shows where his priorities truly lie.

"However, I doubt if Moore is doing an Oskar Schindler right now, agonizing over what more he could have done to change he election. Now he gets four more years of profitable bitching." -- Rich Swank.

Disinformation from another site. Moore refused to allow a free showing on network TV for the sole reason that it would be immediately disqualified from contention for an Academy Award. Moore believes he has a shot at Best Picture with F/911 (the first documentary style film to do so IIRC) and would not risk losing that chance. In fact, he withdrew his film from the documentary category to gain credability for it as a film against traditional productions (according to IMDB News). Money was not an issue with Moore, the politics of the Academy was. [/b][/quote]
You are half right Lanny. He wouldn't have been able to show the film for free if he put it up for best documentary picture consideration. In fact you can read why he did what he did from himself.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/...Date=2004-09-06

[BlackArcher101]

Originally posted by Daradon@Nov 3 2004, 07:08 PM
Yeah, there were lots of free showings of the film, even a few with Michael there I believe. I don't think Rich has his facts right.

He even allowed the movie to be copied and spread throughout the internet. There are numerous websites that allow you download it for free and are good quality. There was no excuse for not watching the movie, and the people that didn't were probably hardcore Bush believers who wouldn't hear of it.

[Jagger]

You can access some of his site by clicking on the "Join our mailing list" at the bottom of the page. If you read "Mike's message" there is a very upbeat letter urging people to not let him (!!) down, with only two hours to go on the East coast. Nothing since then though, which is a surprise......

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald@Nov 3 2004, 06:04 PM
Disinformation from another site. Moore refused to allow a free showing on network TV for the sole reason that it would be immediately disqualified from contention for an Academy Award. Moore believes he has a shot at Best Picture with F/911 (the first documentary style film to do so IIRC) and would not risk losing that chance. In fact, he withdrew his film from the documentary category to gain credability for it as a film against traditional productions (according to IMDB News). Money was not an issue with Moore, the politics of the Academy was.

That's a pretty lame excuse. If he really wants to spread his message then he shouldn't be worried about the fancy little statue.

[Wookie]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Nov 3 2004, 10:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Nov 3 2004, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Daradon@Nov 3 2004, 07:08 PM
Yeah, there were lots of free showings of the film, even a few with Michael there I believe. I don't think Rich has his facts right.

He even allowed the movie to be copied and spread throughout the internet. There are numerous websites that allow you download it for free and are good quality. There was no excuse for not watching the movie, and the people that didn't were probably hardcore Bush believers who wouldn't hear of it. [/b][/quote]
What if you don't agree with him? Or like him? Or agree with his ways of presenting truths from a veiw open to only one interpretation?

There is no excuse for not watching his movie? Or the people that didn't were hardcore Bush supporters?

Wow... That's reaching!

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally posted by Bertuzzied@Nov 3 2004, 04:38 PM
Except for a montage of Bush...

I believe that montage is made up of all the soldiers that have died in Iraq...

[arsenal]

Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald+Nov 3 2004, 06:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lanny_MacDonald @ Nov 3 2004, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Disinformation from another site. Moore refused to allow a free showing on network TV for the sole reason that it would be immediately disqualified from contention for an Academy Award. Moore believes he has a shot at Best Picture with F/911 (the first documentary style film to do so IIRC) and would not risk losing that chance. In fact, he withdrew his film from the documentary category to gain credability for it as a film against traditional productions (according to IMDB News). Money was not an issue with Moore, the politics of the Academy was.[/b]

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/...Date=2004-09-06
<!--QuoteBegin-Michael Moore
But can it also be shown on TV? I brought this possibility up in this week's Rolling Stone interview. Our contract with our DVD distributor says no, it cannot. I have asked them to show it just once, perhaps the night before the election. So far, no deal. But I haven't given up trying.

The only problem with my desire to get this movie in front of as many Americans as possible is that, should it air on TV, I will NOT be eligible to submit "Fahrenheit 9/11" for Academy Award consideration for Best Documentary. Academy rules forbid the airing of a documentary on television within nine months of its theatrical release (fiction films do not have the same restriction).

Although I have no assurance from our home video distributor that they would allow a one-time television broadcast -- and the chances are they probably won't -- I have decided it is more important to take that risk and hope against hope that I can persuade someone to put it on TV, even if it's the night before the election.

Therefore, I have decided not to submit "Fahrenheit 9/11" for consideration for the Best Documentary Oscar. If there is even the remotest of chances that I can get this film seen by a few million more Americans before election day, then that is more important to me than winning another documentary Oscar. I have already won a Best Documentary statue. Having a second one would be nice, but not as nice as getting this country back in the hands of the majority.[/quote]

From Michael Moore's mouth. He wanted to show it on Network TV, but the DVD Distributor said no. Also, i don't see anywhere where it says that a movie shown on network TV is ineligble for Best Picture, just for Best Documentary, which Moore was too late for applying for anyway.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally posted by Wookie@Nov 4 2004, 03:03 AM
What if you don't agree with him? Or like him? Or agree with his ways of presenting truths from a veiw open to only one interpretation?

There is no excuse for not watching his movie? Or the people that didn't were hardcore Bush supporters?

Wow... That's reaching!

Ya, it is reaching. I shouldn't have gone as far as saying they were hardcore and for sure bush lovers, but I wouldn't be suprised that the people who saw that movie were Kerry voters in the first place (Majority of them at least).

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Nov 4 2004, 11:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Nov 4 2004, 11:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Wookie@Nov 4 2004, 03:03 AM
What if you don't agree with him? Or like him? Or agree with his ways of presenting truths from a veiw open to only one interpretation?

There is no excuse for not watching his movie? Or the people that didn't were hardcore Bush supporters?

Wow... That's reaching!

Ya, it is reaching. I shouldn't have gone as far as saying they were hardcore and for sure bush lovers, but I wouldn't be suprised that the people who saw that movie were Kerry voters in the first place (Majority of them at least). [/b][/quote]
For information, a poll on the impact of Farenheit 9/11 on the electorate. Who went to see it for example.

http://www.mclaughlinonline.com/newspoll/n...805fahrpass.htm

Cowperson

[Resolute 14]

Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald+Nov 3 2004, 05:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lanny_MacDonald @ Nov 3 2004, 05:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-fotze@Nov 3 2004, 11:33 PM
Stolen from another site:

"I would save my venom for people like Michael Moore. Fahrenheit 9/11 cost....what? About as much as an average episode of Friends? It made over $100 million in the theaters and became the biggest selling DVD of 2004. And yet Moore continually refused to let it get a free showing prior to the election. He would only permit pay-per-view or pay webcasts. It shows where his priorities truly lie.

"However, I doubt if Moore is doing an Oskar Schindler right now, agonizing over what more he could have done to change he election. Now he gets four more years of profitable bitching." -- Rich Swank.

Disinformation from another site. Moore refused to allow a free showing on network TV for the sole reason that it would be immediately disqualified from contention for an Academy Award. Moore believes he has a shot at Best Picture with F/911 (the first documentary style film to do so IIRC) and would not risk losing that chance. In fact, he withdrew his film from the documentary category to gain credability for it as a film against traditional productions (according to IMDB News). Money was not an issue with Moore, the politics of the Academy was. [/b][/quote]
In other words, Moore cares more about personal accolades than he did about getting his message out to as many people as possible?

Either way, he was mainly thinking of himself, not "his country."

[Flame On]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Nov 4 2004, 12:49 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Nov 4 2004, 12:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lanny_MacDonald@Nov 3 2004, 06:04 PM
Disinformation from another site. Moore refused to allow a free showing on network TV for the sole reason that it would be immediately disqualified from contention for an Academy Award. Moore believes he has a shot at Best Picture with F/911 (the first documentary style film to do so IIRC) and would not risk losing that chance. In fact, he withdrew his film from the documentary category to gain credability for it as a film against traditional productions (according to IMDB News). Money was not an issue with Moore, the politics of the Academy was.

That's a pretty lame excuse. If he really wants to spread his message then he shouldn't be worried about the fancy little statue. [/b][/quote]
Perhaps the exposure of the Oscars; which is large, is another way to get his message of big government out there. Too llate for election but not to take shots at the neo cons or republicans.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally posted by BlackArcher101+Nov 3 2004, 10:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BlackArcher101 @ Nov 3 2004, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Daradon@Nov 3 2004, 07:08 PM
Yeah, there were lots of free showings of the film, even a few with Michael there I believe. I don't think Rich has his facts right.

He even allowed the movie to be copied and spread throughout the internet. There are numerous websites that allow you download it for free and are good quality. There was no excuse for not watching the movie, and the people that didn't were probably hardcore Bush believers who wouldn't hear of it. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, or they were people who don't agree with Bush, but also don't agree with dishonest film makers who distort facts, video and interviews to show their own incredibly slanted view of a topic and then go around claiming that it is pure fact. Hmmm, I wonder if I can think of someone like that. :wave: