04-26-2007, 02:18 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Stamps sign 3 ex-NFLers
Including Alkili Smith. link
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The Calgary Stampeders quarterback Akili Smith, defensive lineman Alonzo Jackson and linebacker Matt Grootegoed who all spent time in the NFL.
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04-26-2007, 02:21 PM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Smith obviously I know but any insight into these other dudes?
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04-26-2007, 02:28 PM
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#3
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Alonzo Jackson
Matt Grootegoed
Doesn't look like either played last year. Neither was ever a starter. Grootegoed looks like he was only ever in 3 games. Jackson played 3 years, and in his final year (with the Giants) he started his final game and got 4 tackles.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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04-26-2007, 02:39 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Interesting... is Smith here to push Hank Burris, or to replace him?
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04-26-2007, 02:43 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Thunderball
Interesting... is Smith here to push Hank Burris, or to replace him?
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Probably neither. He's not very good.
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04-26-2007, 02:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Alonzo Jackson
Matt Grootegoed
Doesn't look like either played last year. Neither was ever a starter. Grootegoed looks like he was only ever in 3 games. Jackson played 3 years, and in his final year (with the Giants) he started his final game and got 4 tackles.
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Not surprised to see Grootegoed up here. Just doesn't have the size to be an NFL LB.
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04-26-2007, 02:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by Thunderball
Interesting... is Smith here to push Hank Burris, or to replace him?
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I was wondering that, and maybe it isn't one or the other.
Push Burris and if he cracks you have Smith to sub in.
Should be interesting.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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04-26-2007, 02:46 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Not surprised to see Grootegoed up here. Just doesn't have the size to be an NFL LB.
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Was he in arena league or europe for the last year? Any idea?
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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04-26-2007, 02:57 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Probably neither. He's not very good.
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I haven't actually seen him play, but since very rarely can a CFL QB cut it in the NFL, perhaps he's still good enough to be a solid CFL QB. Personally, I think anyone would be an upgrade on Henry "passes into triple coverage" Burris.
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04-26-2007, 03:14 PM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Was he in arena league or europe for the last year? Any idea?
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Europe. I believe he was with Frankfurt but I could be wrong.
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04-26-2007, 03:15 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Thunderball
I haven't actually seen him play, but since very rarely can a CFL QB cut it in the NFL, perhaps he's still good enough to be a solid CFL QB. Personally, I think anyone would be an upgrade on Henry "passes into triple coverage" Burris.
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He's basically the same QB. Good mobility but very poor at reading the coverage.
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04-26-2007, 04:50 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Probably neither. He's not very good.
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How do you know, CFL is a completely different game? Did you watch him in college?
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04-26-2007, 05:20 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Flames in 07
How do you know, CFL is a completely different game? Did you watch him in college?
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Because we're not talking about raw ability, we're talking smarts. College is a completely different game from both the CFL and NFL. If you throw a lot of interceptions in the NFL it's usually not because you have a bad arm, it's because you have a bad brain. Unless he's gotten smarter in the 5 years he's been out of football, I really don't see him boosting the club that much.
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04-26-2007, 05:28 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Don't need much of a brain in the CFL. The playbooks are comparable to college schemes ... both are grade 1 compared to the NFL.
For QB's the CFL looks alot like college. They only spend a small number of hours a day with playbooks, it is for only a fraction of the year and with the size of the field there is alot of room for error.
NFL is a year round, full time comittment, small holes to throw into, perfect timing required and tons of pressure.
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04-26-2007, 06:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Flames in 07
Don't need much of a brain in the CFL. The playbooks are comparable to college schemes ... both are grade 1 compared to the NFL.
For QB's the CFL looks alot like college. They only spend a small number of hours a day with playbooks, it is for only a fraction of the year and with the size of the field there is alot of room for error.
NFL is a year round, full time comittment, small holes to throw into, perfect timing required and tons of pressure.
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I'm not talking so much about his ability to digest a playbook as I am his ability to read a defensive scheme. Akili has never been very good at this and neither is Smilin' Hank.
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04-26-2007, 06:59 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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But that's my point, schemes are simple here. in the CFL you run about 4 or 5 schemes. If I sit behind a bench at a CFL game and watch the signals I can figure out the whole gameplan by mid 2nd Quarter.
The CFL is extremely simple to digest, and the big field hides errors. I don't know how he'll pan out, but my point is that college is a much better proxy for the CFL than the NFL is.
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04-26-2007, 07:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Flames in 07
But that's my point, schemes are simple here. in the CFL you run about 4 or 5 schemes. If I sit behind a bench at a CFL game and watch the signals I can figure out the whole gameplan by mid 2nd Quarter.
The CFL is extremely simple to digest, and the big field hides errors. I don't know how he'll pan out, but my point is that college is a much better proxy for the CFL than the NFL is.
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Oh for sure. I'm just saying if a guy has a tendency to throw interceptions, that's not generally something that will just go away. Henry Burris is a prime example of that.
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04-26-2007, 07:30 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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well I guess we'll see. Burris throws tons of dumb passes, but I think we gave him about the worst Offense to run as we could. Henry is the most gifted and athletic QB in the league ... but not so smart.
the Burrato offence required tons of reads and pushing the ball way down field. they need to give him more of a Edmonton type of offense create direction one way, both with the line and the back, and most of the time, pull the ball away from the back and roll the other way, give him a run/pass option (pass to only or a max of two recievers) and let him be athletic.
They spent tons of energy, especially in the first 1/3rd of the season getting him to hit WR's on the fly downfield. I hope the new OC will give him a simple playbook, probably the type of playbook that will work with Smith.
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04-26-2007, 09:21 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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not a good chance that he will do amazing, but a chance. they said on the radio today that out of the qbs(they said players or qbs, i dont remember) that have played in the nfl and tried to make it in the cfl, 10% made it, so get your hopes up that he is the next...uhh i cant think of any qbs that played in the nfl and proceeded to be a starter in the cfl
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04-26-2007, 09:35 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: N/A
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Smith was such a huge bust, rated so high to come into the NFL. He's useless like 90% of the CFL players.
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