Conservative MP Introduces 'Clean Internet Act'

[calculoso]

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1884/125/

Conservative MP Joy Smith yesterday introduced the Clean Internet Act (Bill C-427). The private member's bill would establish an Internet service provider licensing system to be administered by the CRTC along with "know your subscriber" requirements and content blocking powers.

Ugh. Luckily a private member's bill, but I hope that this never comes into effect.

[photon]

Ugh..

He also had an article about Canada's version of the DMCA:

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/1875/125/

[Azure]

Ugh as well...

The only thing I would like to see is all the porn sites to run the .xxx at the end.

[Slava]

Why can't the Conservatives just leave everyone alone....like they want everyone to do with gun control?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Azure

Ugh as well...

The only thing I would like to see is all the porn sites to run the .xxx at the end.

iirc, ironically, the porn industry was willing to do this, but others feared it would "make it too easy to find porn."

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Slava

Why can't the Conservatives just leave everyone alone....like they want everyone to do with gun control?

a conservative =/= the Conservatives.

[worth]

Most governments would like to start over with the internet so it can be better controlled. Don't be suprised when you see this happening.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

iirc, ironically, the porn industry was willing to do this, but others feared it would "make it too easy to find porn."

That's hilarious! Because it's so difficult to find porn.

[Ayrahb]

The Chinese government called and they want Comrade Smith returned to them immediately.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

a new power that would allow the Minister of Industry to order an ISP to block access to content that promotes violence against women, promotes hatred, or contains child pornography. ISPs that fail to block face possible jail time for the company's directors and officers.

The horror of them blocking child pornography... so that is what this is all about, the government wants to put pressure on the ISPs for blocking access to sites that I think we all could agree shouldn't be allowed on the internet. I don't see what is wrong with blocking child pornography, and preventing a child from being victimized.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

iirc, ironically, the porn industry was willing to do this, but others feared it would "make it too easy to find porn."

This was initially true. ICANN initially dropped the idea of .xxx due to religious conservative objections in the US. Then other countries started to complain that "The US" <> "The Internet" and perhaps a new overseer should be developed to replace ICANN without the strong American influence.

So .xxx was re-introduced.

However this time, along with the religious objections, the porn industry decided they didn't want it because it would be too easy to filter out all sites ending with .xxx. It was kind of interesting - groups on opposite sides of the issue both agreeing they didn't want it because it would be too easy to identify/block porn sites.

ICANN once again dropped the idea (this was within the past month). This time the reason given was that they did not want to be put in the position of deciding what was porn and what wasn't.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

The horror of them blocking child pornography... so that is what this is all about, the government wants to put pressure on the ISPs for blocking access to sites that I think we all could agree shouldn't be allowed on the internet. I don't see what is wrong with blocking child pornography, and preventing a child from being victimized.

Is child porn bad? No question.

But there is a huge grey area. Someone posts pictures of them giving their baby a bath on their blog or personal site. I wouldn't consider that child porn, but a pedophile might. Where do you draw the line?

And really, it won't do anything but impost restrictions on honest people. If this is aimed at child porn, the kiddie porn scum will just set up their sites someplace that doesn't have restrictions. The only thing a Bill like this will do is create more beaurocracy, provide more restrictions on private citizens, and do very little in addressing the issue it proposes tackling.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

The horror of them blocking child pornography... so that is what this is all about, the government wants to put pressure on the ISPs for blocking access to sites that I think we all could agree shouldn't be allowed on the internet. I don't see what is wrong with blocking child pornography, and preventing a child from being victimized.

So what if the goverment says that we all agree that information criticizing the government shouldn't be allowed on the internet?

Plus that's only a small part of what this is proposing.

They're saying that if a director or officer of an ISP is convicted of a crime that includes violence against women then that ISP's license should be pulled.

So some director of Shaw hits his wife and every Shaw customer looses their access???

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ensorship.html

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

iirc, ironically, the porn industry was willing to do this, but others feared it would "make it too easy to find porn."

Makes it a lot easier for filters to block the porn sites....

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

The horror of them blocking child pornography... so that is what this is all about, the government wants to put pressure on the ISPs for blocking access to sites that I think we all could agree shouldn't be allowed on the internet. I don't see what is wrong with blocking child pornography, and preventing a child from being victimized.

well, the sicko that took the picture probably would molest that kid anyway even if he couldn't show his small circle of deranged efriends on his website. and they will find other more covert ways of trading their filth. monitoring a website like that is a great way to find out who's up to what - "hmmmm this guy has logged into kiddieporn.com every day for the last 3 weeks, maybe we should go pay him a visit" instead of not having ways to track him down.

and secondly, this bill goes WAY beyond blocking child porn. i had to do a paper in school on racism in the university setting. one thing i wanted to do was explore (and debunk) some of the prominent racists' claims. i went and got my info right from the horse's mouth - www.stormfront.org was a great place to go get the view from the 'other side'. if this bill was passed, i wouldn't have been able to access that site even for research purposes.

[sadora]

Originally Posted by Slava

Why can't the Conservatives just leave everyone alone....like they want everyone to do with gun control?

That would indeed be a great day in the world, if all the conservatives could simply realize how truly annoying they are and just leave everyone alone to their wretched hell worthy lives.