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The Familia · 10-22-2004, 11:02 PM

Anyone else catch a clear view if Selucio Stanford was onside when Mike Juhaze punted the ball during mid play, and then Stanford recovered the ball and went for the TD? This is a prime reason why the CFL needs some instant replay. Too many times controversial plays occur without the backup of instant reply. It's 2004, lets implement this system like every other league.

troutman · 10-22-2004, 11:07 PM

QR77 says someone from the Stamps has reviewed replay, and Sanford was on-side! CFL could possibly hear appeal.

Even BC Lions people are saying it is on-side.

Rejean31 · 10-22-2004, 11:10 PM

Post game show on QR77 had some guys going over the tapes and they say Sanford was at least 2 yards on side. Saying he held back on the play, clearly, for that purpose. Oh well, either way, it was a gutsy performance from the guys. If the offense had been clicking in the first half we would have won.

Bertuzzied · 10-22-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Rejean31@Oct 23 2004, 05:10 AM
Post game show on QR77 had some guys going over the tapes and they say Sanford was at least 2 yards on side. Saying he held back on the play, clearly, for that purpose. Oh well, either way, it was a gutsy performance from the guys. If the offense had been clicking in the first half we would have won.

the guy who threw the flag was down on the 5 yard line! pathetic! Scott Coe is even more pathetic for not stopping that guy on 3rd and 24.

kudos to dunnigan for calling that play. or was it Khari that called the play?

troutman · 10-22-2004, 11:13 PM

First Gelinas was robbed, and now Sanford. Where is the justice for Calgary?

kobasew19 · 10-22-2004, 11:15 PM

I was just about to ask what the QR77 people said. Stupid TSN, they didn't even show a replay with Stanford and Juhasz (sp) in the same screen. Maybe Global will get some tape for the 11:30 show...

Bertuzzied · 10-22-2004, 11:18 PM

to be honest i don't think the stupid refs know the rule so i don't think any of them were looking for the onside guy.

Wouldn't it awesome if they somehow reversed this?

hmm i'm still dreaming the flames won the cup in 6.

troutman · 10-22-2004, 11:21 PM

According to Sanford, one referee on the field ruled it a touchdown, and then was over-ruled.

kobasew19 · 10-22-2004, 11:27 PM

did QR77 say anything else?

edit: grammer problem

troutman · 10-22-2004, 11:32 PM

Dunigan says the ref called a no yards penalty, which is absolutely absurd in the circumstances. Say he will look into appealing the game.

Bertuzzied · 10-22-2004, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by troutman@Oct 23 2004, 05:32 AM
Dunigan says the ref called a no yards penalty, which is absolutely absurd in the circumstances.

But thats the right call if Sanford was ahead of the punter, BUT he was 2 yards behind. I think one of the refs got it right but Ireland overruled him. Didn't you see them all yelling at each other down there.

kevman · 10-23-2004, 12:10 AM

TSN just showed the play from the sidelines...Touchdown no questions, it's out to the public now lets se what happens...

calf · 10-23-2004, 12:12 AM

100% a td - just saw the replay...Sanford was onside by about 2 yards. Thank god instant replay's coming in next year...hopefully the video judges are at least half way competent. Good thing this was a nothing game too.

I doubt Dunigan's appeal will go anywhere...you know that the league won't want to set any kind of precedent there.

Team showed some guts in the 2nd half..and heart. Looking forward to next season!

browna · 10-23-2004, 12:13 AM

Absolutely horrible, if thats whats being said.
TSN shows the one angle only, when they have about 5 different cameras.

What is BC doing on coverage, or shouldn't they be expecting that? Even I was expecting that with that last play, since Jones couldn't throw it into the end zone. Guess those player watch too much NFL and were expecting 10 laterals.

It looked like a ref power trip for sure...the guy has to throw the flag because he's not watching who's onside or who's not, being down by the ball...its other refs behind the play that should be paying attention to whos behind the ball when its kicked.

Thank goodness for instant replay next year.

Good effort again by the Stamps...as hard on them as we've been there have been 3 or 4 games this year where one big play or one bad call goes the other way, and they get a win, not a loss.

By the way, love the CFL rules that allow onside kicks like that.

kevman · 10-23-2004, 12:15 AM

The biggest shame is plays like this only work once in a blue moon and it weant all for not tonight. I have to aggree, goto love thos CFL rules!

JiriHrdina · 10-23-2004, 12:19 AM

Officiating in the CFL is a joke and will continue and an embarassement to the entire league. One just hopes that the blown calls manage to even out over the course of the season. Let's face it - the Stamps probably got the benefit of a bad call in their last meeting on their final touchdown. Lions get the benefit of a bad call tonight. So it evens out in my view. But still - what a joke.

CaptainCrunch · 10-23-2004, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by JiriHrdina@Oct 23 2004, 06:19 AM
Officiating in the CFL is a joke and will continue and an embarassement to the entire league. One just hopes that the blown calls manage to even out over the course of the season. Let's face it - the Stamps probably got the benefit of a bad call in their last meeting on their final touchdown. Lions get the benefit of a bad call tonight. So it evens out in my view. But still - what a joke.

Actually in the last game it evened out. Souza got in on the sneak a play earlier but the penalty was offside B.C. and ref canceled the touchdown which was the wrong call. Again

The CFL has to find younger officials then the 80 year old incompetant geezers that are working the games now.

What a joke, a spectacular play that could have helped the Stamps in thier marketing is wiped out by the worst officials in professional sports.

AvengeR · 10-23-2004, 01:04 PM

I am not that upset becasue the replay showed that the Stamps won the game, and a plus is that we get the number 1 draft pick as a result of the loss in the standings.

What i am upset at is that Dunigan told the officials before that last play that they might try an onside kick. so the refs should have been anticipating it. The standing might not show it, but they won and can end the season winning 3 straight games. I can't wait for next season.

calgaryred · 10-23-2004, 01:11 PM

I have heard behind closed doors that the CFl is really upset with the refrees this year and that's a big reason why they are putting more money behind training these guys to do a better job.

Deelow · 10-23-2004, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by calgaryred@Oct 23 2004, 07:11 PM
I have heard behind closed doors that the CFl is really upset with the refrees this year and that's a big reason why they are putting more money behind training these guys to do a better job.

They should put more money behind paying them so they all don't have to keep full time jobs to make ends meet.