Cameron documentary claims to have found Jesus' Tomb. Oh, and dead body too...

[photon]

Wow, I can't imagine the war that this is going to start up.

http://www.jesusfamilytomb.com/

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

...Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene.

http://time-blog.com/middle_east/200...the_crypt.html
http://israelitybites.blogspot.com/2...overed-in.html
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...368731,00.html

[metallicat]

How exactly does one prove that a body is that of Jesus Christ? I sort of doubt they have his DNA on record, and I doubt dental records go back 2007 years.

[Sparks]

True, but the first link (all I've read so far) says this:

The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.

As a comment on one of the other links points out, however, those names were undoubtedly pretty common. They apparently did a bunch of forensic testing, etc but as you pointed out, there's probably no way to know anything for sure. Except that it'll undoubtedly further pad James Cameron's pockets.

Interesting, though.

[Jiggy_12]

Fun stuff.

Should be great fun to watch the sh*t storm this stirs up.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

This has a Geraldo Rivera-Capone's safe unveiling feel to it.... possibly a Ponns & Fleishman cold fusion feel too. I await the inevitable "oops, research error, my bad" announcement in 2 week's time.

Remember when James Cameron used to make good movies like Aliens & True Lies? I miss those days...

[Hack&Lube]

James Cameron's next movie is Battle Angel Alita...that should be interesting.

He's a pretty big name to put some authenticity to this. Look forward to it. I highly doubt it would take 20-years to decipher names as those are some of the most well-known names even in Aramaic/Hebrew in Western history.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

How exactly does one prove that a body is that of Jesus Christ? I sort of doubt they have his DNA on record, and I doubt dental records go back 2007 years.

Jesus flossed I bet.

Hence no cavities.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

How exactly does one prove that a body is that of Jesus Christ? I sort of doubt they have his DNA on record, and I doubt dental records go back 2007 years.

That brings up something interesting, if they can find recoverable DNA, they can see if this family has living descendants.

[Daradon]

Ermmm didn't Jesus ascend to heaven, body and all? He was buried, but then rose three days later, walked about the earth for a while showing off his wicked scars, then rose, BODY AND ALL in 'The Ascension'.

Not that I believe all that, but that's what I remember learning. He didn't leave a body. Which of course makes all the stories impossible to disprove, conviently enough.

Edit: Ahhh yes, didn't read all of it. Yes this would prove he actually was human. Good on them!

And it's a point I make in debate all the time. If Jesus wasn't the son of god, wouldn't that make what he did all that more important and special? If I knew I was the son of god and would be resurrected and be a hero for everyone on the planet while doing good and absolving sin I take his path in a heart beat. There's no reason not to. But if you're human and have doubts... fear etc. that's when you're doing true good. It's not special if you know the outcome, know your right and safe. It's pointless.

[photon]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

How exactly does one prove that a body is that of Jesus Christ? I sort of doubt they have his DNA on record, and I doubt dental records go back 2007 years.

That's the big question. The articles are very light on details, but I guess that's expected since they haven't seen the thing yet.

I suspect it'll be something along the lines of the DNA stuff used to demonstrate the relationships between the bodies (ie a mother Mary, a son Jesus, Jesus' son, and proof that the other Mary is his mother, etc..), and possibly used to establish the timeframe of the people as well. Then other evidence will be used to support the idea that it's Jesus.

[Cowperson]

An article heavy on details . . . .

http://www.thestar.com/Unassigned/article/185534

Cowperson

[Robbob]

Screw checking for decendants. I say clone him and put him on the vegas strip.

[troutman]

First, the big elephant in the room; they need to find some reliable evidence that there ever was a historical Jesus . . .

http://www.rationalresponders.com/fo...dence_of_jesus

There have been a number of hoaxes in this area:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/06/18/jesus.box/

A stone box touted as the oldest archaeological evidence of Jesus is, in fact, a well-crafted fake, Israeli archaeological experts say.

The box, an object known as an ossuary, was said to have contained the bones of Jesus' brother James.

Shroud of Turin:

http://skepdic.com/shroud.html

all the evidence points toward the medieval forgery hypothesis

The Trier Cathedral in Germany is said to contain the Holy Robe of Christ:

http://www.sacred-destinations.com/g...-cathedral.htm

The Empress St. Helena is known for her pilgrimages to the Holy Land, and pious legend has it that she brought back the Holy Robe of Christ from Jerusalem and entrusted it to her son's new church at Trier. The Holy Robe is the seamless garment said to be worn by Christ during the Crucifixion. It first makes an appearance in written documents in the 12th century; it was first displayed at the church in the 16th century for a period of 23 days, during which more than 100,000 pilgrims came to venerate it. It has been periodically displayed since then, attracting ever-larger crowds. The last exposition of the relic, for three weeks in 1933, drew 2 million pilgrims. In 1959, the relic was sealed in a splendid shrine in its own chapel, where it remains today.

[Azure]

Wait a minute, up till now I thought Jesus never existed?

Now he does?

So we just move the goalposts this time around?

[the_hound]

Originally Posted by Azure

Wait a minute, up till now I thought Jesus never existed?

Now he does?

So we just move the goalposts this time around?

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Don't worry, he is imaginary! Just like Santa, The Tooth Fairy and Vancouver winning a stanley cup!

[Azure]

Originally Posted by the_hound

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Don't worry, he is imaginary! Just like Santa, The Tooth Fairy and Vancouver winning a stanley cup!

Oh, okay.

How can they find his tomb then?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Azure

Oh, okay.

How can they find his tomb then?

So do you think they've actually found his tomb? That they have the actual bones of the actual Jesus of the bible?

[mykalberta]

I will most defiantely be isohunting this video tomorrow

MYK

[Azure]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So do you think they've actually found his tomb? That they have the actual bones of the actual Jesus of the bible?

I don't know what to believe.

First of all, Cowperson posted a few articles a while back saying that there is no historical evidence that the Jesus from the Bible ever existed.

Now Cameron comes along and says he existed, but was never resurrected?

[blankall]

I think this will be pretty interesting. Although, Jesus was a pretty common name, the director makes a good point that the odds of all those people in the tomb havign the names they had by coincidence is statistically almost impossible.

I'm curious to see what kind of evidence actually supports that these names belong to the bodies in question.