Some more US election news...

[ah123]

Tactics required to become president...

The most infamous of the dirty tricks credited to Mr. Rove, but never proven to be his, came during the 2000 Republican primary when Mr. Bush entered South Carolina well behind Mr. McCain for the presidential nomination.

Using a tactic known as "push-polling," where a bogus pollster phones voters asking leading questions, suggestions were circulated that Mr. McCain had betrayed his country while he was a PoW in Vietnam and had fathered a child with a black prostitute.

Karl Rove's time

Another interesting twist, Iran, that "axis-of-evil-country" backs Bush

Historically, Democrats have harmed Iran more than Republicans, said Hasan Rowhani, head of the Supreme National Security Council, Iran's top security decision-making body.

If Bush is re-elected, is Rowhani going to have to eat his words?


Tehran endorses Bush

[arsenal]

Originally posted by ah123@Oct 20 2004, 11:43 AM
If Bush is re-elected, is Rowhani going to have to eat his words?

Nope.

[octothorp]

I'd guess that the Iranian officials are probably a little worried about Kerry's promise to eliminate loopholes that allow American companies like Halliburton to conduct business in Iran. Infact, I wouldn't be suprised if this is exactly the spin Kerry puts on it.

[Flame On]

That Carl Rove artivle was chilling when I read it. The whole thing about pamphlets being sent out that stated gay marriages would be compulsery! I mean that's almost laughable if it wasn't so sinister in what was happening. "You, go with him. Guy over there, with him..." ;_;

[Bingo]

Once again ...

Left leaning newspaper in left leaning Canada quotes a former Republican that lost to Rove in the primaries and is now a think tank member of the Democrat party two weeks before the election?

And people are shocked because he thinks Rove fights more dirty than his side?

Come on guys ... I'm sure there are honest people on both sides and dirty pool players on both sides. To think otherwise is very naive.

[MarchHare]

fathered a child with a black prostitute.

That's not *quite* what happened. I believe the poll asked the question, "Do you support George W. Bush or John McCain for the Republican nomination?" If the pollee answered McCain, the follow-up question was, "Do you support McCain even though he is the father of a black child?" The natural implication is that McCain had an illegitimate child with a black woman, but the reality is that he adopted a girl from the Phillipines or somewhere in Southeast Asia.

[Edit]
I wasn't exactly right. Here's the full story:

Bush’s campaign strategists, including Karl Rove, devised a push poll against John McCain. South Carolina voters were asked “Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?”. They had no interest in the actual percentages in the poll, the goal was to suggest that he had. This was particularly vicious since McCain was campaining with his adopted Bangladeshi daughter. The sight of the little dark skinned girl made the seed planted earlier grow and John McCain lost South Carolina, effectively ending his run for the presidency.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Push_poll

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally posted by Bingo@Oct 20 2004, 08:26 PM
Once again ...

Left leaning newspaper in left leaning Canada quotes a former Republican that lost to Rove in the primaries and is now a think tank member of the Democrat party two weeks before the election?

And people are shocked because he thinks Rove fights more dirty than his side?

Come on guys ... I'm sure there are honest people on both sides and dirty pool players on both sides. To think otherwise is very naive.

Come on Bingo, the guy doesn't get his reputation without being deserved some how. The Democrats aren't the only ones scared spitless of him. The Republicans know not to cross Rove and give him a wide berth. Marc Savard was deemed a cancer in the dressing room and run out of town with less evidence and innuendo. The guy is a creep and has been considered such for years (Rove, not Savard).

[Bingo]

Freeman writes for the ultra left UK Guardian that is currently trying to sway American voters to vote for Kerry ... he's jaded.

I'm not for a second suggesting Rove is a choir boy, but the source is tainted, and the notion that dirty politics and underhanded characters are all coming from the side is silly.

That's all I am saying.

Heck the Dems didn't think they were being underhanded enough, hence the move to bring the Joe Lockharts of the world in.

[CaramonLS]

Course Bingo completely Ignore's MarchHares post...

[Mike F]

Originally posted by Bingo@Oct 20 2004, 02:40 PM
Freeman writes for the ultra left UK Guardian that is currently trying to sway American voters to vote for Kerry ... he's jaded.

I'm not for a second suggesting Rove is a choir boy, but the source is tainted, and the notion that dirty politics and underhanded characters are all coming from the side is silly.

That's all I am saying.

Heck the Dems didn't think they were being underhanded enough, hence the move to bring the Joe Lockharts of the world in.

For a jaded, tainted source he seems to be saying the same thing you are:

There may be no signs of push-polling yet, but both sides are using scare tactics, and often overtly.

During a campaign stop in Ohio yesterday, Vice-President Dick Cheney suggested that terrorists could soon be using nuclear weapons against U.S. cities and that Mr. Kerry was too soft to defend America against that possibility.

On the Democrat's side, voters are also being treated to some doom and gloom, including the threat of a renewed military draft, despite denials from Mr. Bush, and dire warnings that social security benefits will be slashed under the Bush administration.

A radio ad from the Kerry camp running in Florida also blames Mr. Bush for the sudden shortage of flu vaccine. "They relied on foreign workers to make the vaccine. A company with a bad track record. Now we're about 50 million vaccines short -- 50 million. If they can't even deal with the flu vaccine, how are they going to deal with bioterror vaccines?"