What can you do in this situation?? - Shinny Hockey related

[SpitFire40]

I was just playing some shinny tonite, and a couple guys who were Calgary Royals were shooting around. When people just shoot around I stay clear of the goal line and keep my head up. Anyways, I took a shot trying to bank it off the cross bar, I hit the bar but the puck richochet's off to the side and into the air, I yell Heads up, watch out! but the puck nails the guy. It was a pretty freak bounce in fact I didn't know it even hit the guy.

I go up to him and ask if it hit him... there some blood dripping from his forehead so obviously it did, of course naturally I feel like **** and appologize... He seemed ****ed off at me and I don't blame him because it had to hurt like hell.

Anyways, what can you do in this situation? Complete freak accident that leaves you feeling guilty as **** even though I had no control of where the puck was going after it hit the crossbar.

But the more I think about it, the more ****ed off I am... Why should I feel guilty about it? If he kept his head up and didn't stand behind the goal line, or if he wasn't too pre-occupied dangling between his legs with his head down he wouldn't be at risk for getting nailed in the head... It's not like I have the force and can move a puck that just hit the crossbar in mid air out of the way...

When I skated in to shoot, the area was clear... I'm actually really careful about this stuff.

Note to all Shinny Players: KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AT ALL TIMES! I don't care if you're a Midget AAA player or a noob, you aren't invincible on a rink filled with 15 people each shooting on net.

and if somehow the guy I nailed reads CP... My appologies again... **** happens...

[the_hound]

I say a fight to the death may be in order

[Jayems]

well, can you blame him for being a little ****ed? If i just took a puck off my face, i'd be choked, even if it was an accident.

I'm sure he doesn't really hold you responsible, just ****ed it had to happen to him.

I would think about it as one of the risks people know about going on the ice.

[SpitFire40]

Lol

[Jayems]

this thread makes me want to get a bunch of people from CP together one night to play some shinny at that rink (i assume its the signal hill one, as we've talked about it before).

Think there would be enough interest? (I don't want to derail the thread, so I may start a new one)

But Spitfire, you can't shoot. I value my face. You're in net.

[Otto-matic]

I think anyone would be ****ed off if they got hit in the head or any other body part. Maybe it was Karma for that kid, but no reason to feel guilty things happen.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

I think anyone would be ****ed off if they got hit in the head or any other body parts. Maybe it was Karma for that kid, but no reason to feel guilty things happen.

Exactly. As long as you sincerely appologized, thats all you can do.

[V]

I don't know, if I'm in that position, and I wind up to shoot and I see someone skating behind the net I take a lot off the shot and make sure it goes in the net.

Of course, if I'm skating anywhere near the net I make sure I'm not around it when someone's winding up to shoot. I thought that was common sense.

[SpitFire40]

Originally Posted by Jayems

well, can you blame him for being a little ****ed? If i just took a puck off my face, i'd be choked, even if it was an accident.

I'm sure he doesn't really hold you responsible, just ****ed it had to happen to him.

I would think about it as one of the risks people know about going on the ice.

Hey I wouldn't blame him either, but me personally would take it in stride as it has happened to me before and it hurt like a bitch but I instantly knew it was accidental, which is why i'm careful when I play outdoor shinny on a busy rink, but I can't control other people.

If anything, this guy will stay clear in the future. It's just a crappy/akward feeling causing an injury to someone you don't know.

But as one of his buddies said, that's a part of hockey. All I can do is appologize and hell, i'd rather take one off the head than be the one who caused it.

It was a pretty weak shot, I was really suprised it hit him, and that it actually made him bleed.

Maybe I should go to the Heckle and take out some Oilfans... j/k

[SpitFire40]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

I think anyone would be ****ed off if they got hit in the head or any other body part. Maybe it was Karma for that kid, but no reason to feel guilty things happen.

The funny thing is, he almost got me in a shin when I wasn't paying attention when he and his buddies were taking one timers, I thought they were just passing it around...

Anyways, i'm just chalking this up to **** happening.

Originally Posted by Dominicwasalreadytaken

I don't know, if I'm in that position, and I wind up to shoot and I see someone skating behind the net I take a lot off the shot and make sure it goes in the net.

Of course, if I'm skating anywhere near the net I make sure I'm not around it when someone's winding up to shoot. I thought that was common sense.

I do aswell, where he was it would've taken one hell of a bounce to go in that direction. I was going straight onto the net, shot high right, hit the bar and the thing went almost at a right angle and clocked him.

A million to one really.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by SpitFire40

The funny thing is, he almost got me in a shin when I wasn't paying attention when he and his buddies were taking one timers, I thought they were just passing it around...

Anyways, i'm just chalking this up to **** happening.



I do aswell, where he was it would've taken one hell of a bounce to go in that direction. I was going straight onto the net, shot high right, hit the bar and the thing went almost at a right angle and clocked him.

A million to one really.

"It was a million to one shot doc, million to one"

[CMPunk]

Why were you trying to bank it off the crossbar? If thats the case, then you should watch what you're doing. Maybe he assumed you were aiming for the net and wasn't expecting the puck to rebound back at him. If it was an accident and you just caught the crossbar...then I guess it happens

[P-Diddy]

Its the kids' fault for not wearing a helmet and not being aware of poor shooters.

[Wookie]

Well I think it's both of your fault, moron for standing around a net at a shinny ice time, I've lost teeth and got my face sliced up more from shinny then contact hockey. Playing shinny you're more likely to get hurt because of the lack of skill from others.

Additionally it's also wise not to aim at crossbars when people are around.

[Temporary_User]

shinny is tough, most players out there arent too experienced, or arent in playing with others w/out full gear and helmets. Players who arent too expereinced seems to always try for the corners or some other "tough" shot. players who are experienced might forget that not everyone is wearing pads like they're used to and will in the heat of the moment begin playing and shooting like they will commenly do.

One thing that I see is common with most shinny players and should be stopped, is a person sticking their stick out as to try and block a shot from happening. What seems to be common when this happens though is the player is just casually sticking their stick out while still holding their body and head away; with this, their stick is moreso making a ramp for a puck than anything.
I've seen many people nailed because of this.
Shinny shots should be kept low (under a foot).

[SpitFire40]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Why were you trying to bank it off the crossbar? If thats the case, then you should watch what you're doing. Maybe he assumed you were aiming for the net and wasn't expecting the puck to rebound back at him. If it was an accident and you just caught the crossbar...then I guess it happens

Everyone aims for the cross bar when you're just casually shooting on the net. That and like I said these were AJHL Calgary Royals who usually act like hot shots out there, I've nearly been pegged by them shooting at the freaking boards in the past when i'm skating by.

Just like I almost got nailed minutes before thinking they were just doing passing around but they were really trying one timers, and i've watched them in the past nearly taking people's heads off with head high dish passes in a game full of inexperienced players, if you can't skate well enough to get out of the ways or have bad reaction time those suckers will clock you.

I had zero intention for the puck to hit the guy and it's not like the angle of my shot had him in my sights, nobody was behind the net, it was all clear for me to shoot, in fact his buddies gave me the go ahead to take a turn on net. It was just a fluke bounce off the bar.

For all the times i've seen these Royals kids out with trick passes that nearly clock random people I feel less and less bad about it. Maybe they'll keep their passes low in the future. I doubt it though, but I'm going to be more careful, even though I was extremely cautious anyways, Unless I see that everyone know's i'm shooting I'll hold off, but I can't be responsible for morons and going in the corner behind the goal line even though you think it's safe, all it takes is a fluke shot like this to clock you.

Something like this actually makes me question just how safe shinny really is, I'm tempted to wear my helmet and visor next time out.

I don't think it's my fault or his fault, **** like this just happens in Hockey and I understand why he would be ****ed, and he was understanding about it when I went to check on him in the change room.

Originally Posted by Temporary_User

shinny is tough, most players out there arent too experienced, or arent in playing with others w/out full gear and helmets. Players who arent too expereinced seems to always try for the corners or some other "tough" shot. players who are experienced might forget that not everyone is wearing pads like they're used to and will in the heat of the moment begin playing and shooting like they will commenly do.

One thing that I see is common with most shinny players and should be stopped, is a person sticking their stick out as to try and block a shot from happening. What seems to be common when this happens though is the player is just casually sticking their stick out while still holding their body and head away; with this, their stick is moreso making a ramp for a puck than anything.
I've seen many people nailed because of this.
Shinny shots should be kept low (under a foot).

Yeah I agree, I've seen this happen alot but for me when there's a game on unless i'm on a breakaway or something I usually just pass it around and I usually look for the really young kids and let them have a go, or play D. I go out for the skate more than anything else.

Anyone else get annoyed with hot shot's who give'r like the Cup's on the line pretty much bowling over other people unless people don't move out of their way? I mean take it easy, pass to more than your 1 buddy on a team of 5, I'm almost tempted to just play random rec center ice times with full gear because at least there's some structure involved.

[Engine09]

I cleared a puck out of my zone once, up on the glass but it took a very funny bounce off the metal instead and nailed a guy in the teeth.

Yes, very weird and guilty feeling you have when someone gets hurt but it was just one of those things. He was looking to catch the puck and keep it in the zone, so he was skating right towards it. Sometimes you don't need to be so agressive whiel playing shinny.

I also took a puck off the jaw a whiel ago and got more than a few stitches, would have been ****ed if I lost some teeth. I wear a full face Itech now.

[edn88]

If you play hockey with a puck whether shinny or otherwise, you are always going to be risking getting hit.

if you want to be cool and not wear a helmet and risk hitting your head on the ice, then you are stupid and I don't feel really bad for you. Similarly if you don't wear a face mask and get hit in the kisser, then you deserve to get stitches.

At the very least everyone playing hockey needs a helmet, skates and gloves (and shin guards are always a good idea). If people are shooting at the net and you are around the net, you need to be very vigilant.

I don't think you should feel sorry or even need to apologize - you tought him a good life lesson, one that his parents should have taught him. Next time he will be a little more careful.

[SpitFire40]

That's the thing though Kryzky, I don't play agressively really and these guys were shooting while a game was going on for like an hour not paying attention to the game as it was happening.

The game ended and there were about 10 guys just shooting on the nets like I said, his two buddies gave me the go ahead, I don't know if the guy went to get a puck in the corner or if he went behind the goal line area to get a pass from his friend like right after I shot or what because the puck was in the air for a full second at least, it was almost commical how it happened. I couldn't believe it actually hit him with me yelling "watch out"! Even after the loud ding off the cross bar should've made the guy raise his head.

I had to do this diagram just to show how flukey this was. Usually if it ding's the cross bar it'll just fly straight over the net and over the fencing.

[Iggy Snipe]

Well if it went off the cross-bar it was probably a good shot...so nice shot!.