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Old 12-28-2006, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default Next U.S. President: Senator John Edwards

he spoke in an apparently important speech at the 50th anniversary bilderberg meeting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3773019.stm

DISCREET AND ELITE
This year Bilderberg has announced a list of attendees
They include BP chief John Browne, US Senator John Edwards, World Bank president James Wolfensohn and Mrs Bill Gates

here's a pretty huge list of the 2004 italy bilderbergers:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=38783

and, given the recent hat he's tossing into the ring, and the strange way that the primaries operate, for the demopublicans they vote a little pinker than the general public, i just can't see someone as divisive as hillary - who apparently got a cold reception at a big CFR (council on foreign relations) pow-wow earlier this year - being given the chance to go ahead.

i haven't checked to see if edwards is a member of the trilateral commission and the CFR but i'm pretty sure he is in at least one of those.

here's the hat:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16377918/
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:24 AM   #2
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I'm not sure if Edwards himself would win, but a person like Hillary would just divide the U.S even further. Never mind Republicans, there are enough Democratic voters who dislike her. Considering the winning candidate will need to attract a few swing voters, I just don't see her winning when even her party's base doesnt think much of her.

Hillary is not a person you dislike, she is a person you despise (or of course, love). That is not what that country needs right now, not after the last administration.
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:30 AM   #3
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Very interesting that Edwards is attending Bilderberg meetings. Really just reenforces the idea that no matter who wins, democrat or republican, when it comes down to it, they are one in the same.
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:39 AM   #4
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So much for actually having a President who can unite the country.

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Old 12-28-2006, 11:33 AM   #5
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The only candidate who even has a chance of uniting the country is John McCain, and he might just be too old. He might not be universally loved by all, but he's generally the only Republican that most liberals wouldn't be against.

People love or hate Hillary and Gulliani, and Obama would become a race issue
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:36 AM   #6
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Obama and McCain would be my choices.

I think the pride of Hillary will make her run for President....without thinking of what is better for the US in the long run.
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:24 PM   #8
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That's John Edward not John Edwards.

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Old 12-28-2006, 12:39 PM   #9
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Very interesting that Edwards is attending Bilderberg meetings. Really just reenforces the idea that no matter who wins, democrat or republican, when it comes down to it, they are one in the same.
yep.

harper is also a bilderberger, gave a speech there in 03 for sure and i hear earlier as well, i think 1993 if memory serves.

bill tucker of the american free press does a huge expose every year, going back decades now, some pieces of the mainstream media finally admit the group's existence but by and large it passes every year without comment. included of course in the meetings are the media moguls...

as for obama i'm sure he's in the plans, the guy's resume is like one huge concession to the new world order. he's pretty young yet, has to pay his dues a little more until he gets promoted.

by and large are political system is a dog and pony show, it is theater. we are handed 'the issues' by the owned and controlled media, the talking points, the debate. at this stage we are at an UNPRECEDENTED centralization of control of the media, it is very bad.

it's funny, media used to expose all this backchannel control before they were so consolidated. PBS even aired a piece in 1987 called 'the secret government':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sstDwKTCpM

these days the ford foundation and its subsidiaries like 'democracy now' establish the limits of dissidence on the 'left', with 'whistleblowers' like noam chomsky that will prattle on and on aboot the crimes of previous republican administrations and flatly refusing to follow the money and the power to organizations like the council on foreign relations, which he calls 'a nothing organization'. he even goes so far as to say that if 9/11 had government involvement, it really doesn't even matter.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM

because remember, it's only the republicans! and the 'left' could not be involved!

also, oswald acted alone. it's true, chomsky says so. and if there was a high-level conspiracy, well it doesn't matter because JFK is simply one other man, i mean he wasn't like important or anything.

the fixes are in. the boundaries are set. the agenda rolls forward without open challenge in the newspapers in the little boxes and the talking heads on television.
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It should be Obama. He is the best choice by a wide margin.
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The only candidate who even has a chance of uniting the country is John McCain, and he might just be too old. He might not be universally loved by all, but he's generally the only Republican that most liberals wouldn't be against.

People love or hate Hillary and Gulliani, and Obama would become a race issue
I didn't realize how old McCain is. He's already older than Reagan was when he became President (McCain is 70 and Reagan was 69 when he took office) and the election is still 2 years away.

This should be an interesting election. It's the first time since 1952 that neither the current President nor Vice President will be running for President.
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Mark my words, the next president of the United States will be either a right-leaning Democrat, or a Moderate Republican.

Someone like McCain or Giuliani, maybe Wesley Clark.

Definitely not someone like Edwards or Clinton.

I wouldn't be too upset if Obama won... would definitely usher in a new era.
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It should be Obama. He is the best choice by a wide margin.
He needs to wait about 8 years, I don't think he has the experience, and he still is pretty young.

I do like him a lot though, I just don't think the time is right.
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I wouldn't be too upset if Obama won... would definitely usher in a new era.
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Mark my words, the next president of the United States will be either a right-leaning Democrat, or a Moderate Republican.
Your words don't have to be marked, that's pretty much what people everywhere are expecting already. For the U.S to unite, there has to be some concessions made on both sides to bring everyone closer to the middle.
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