This is what you have to look forward to...

[Lanny_MacDonald]

You folks are so lucky up there in Canada. You don't get FoxNews so you don't have to listen to the assinine garbage that they spew down here. A perfect example is what I listened to at work this morning through one of their radio stations, KFYI.

Michael Moore is doing a speaking engagement for the University of Arizona this evening. FoxNews Radio was all over the university for having the gaul to bring Moore in and pay him (incorrectly quoted) $35,000 to speak. They openly challenged all professors to call in and explain how they can afford to do this when education is in such poor shape. They labelled the university as an "enemy" of democracy and said that they were considering putting together a petition to have the school charter revoked. They said all the professors were communists and don't deserve to be educating the youth of the nation. I was completely floored and it almost made me physically ill. This IN America??? McCarthyism is alive and well at FoxNews.

Now this is not at all surprising for Fox and their hacks. They are completely uninformed in regards to almost anything on the planet and are nothing but a bunch of fear mongering idiots, and in this regard they are just as out to lunch. How is having Michael Moore speaking at the university an afront to democracy and reason to have a learning institutions charter revoked? That's just plain ugly, especially when you consider THE FACTS.

The facts are that the Speakers Board of the Associated Students of the University of Arizona has contracted Moore to come in and speak, like schools all over the nation. His $27,500 appearance fee is standard for a speaker of his ilk (Sean Hannity charges more than that, and is speaking in Phoenix, but they failed to mention this). What these dolts fail to acknowledge is that the Speakers Board of the Associated Students of the University of Arizona is charging $5 a ticket and has sold 10,000 tickets for this event. This is a fund raising opportunity for the Union and is how they afford to keep student government going. But is this obvious "capitalist" venture applauded? No. Fox has the gaul to paint it as a subversive meeting of "enemies of the State" and level threats toward the school who has little to do with the event other than sanctioning it through the student government.

This is the type of crap that Fox pulls all the time. They did it in Florida (running a USF professor out of the country on charges of being a terrorist) and they do it in Arizona. They have a national network of stations, supported through Clear Channel (a communications corp that has multiple stations in every major US market), and have opportunity to spread poison like this as news. How can anyone take them seriously when they distort the facts so badly?

Oh, and here's Yahoo's/US Todays take on it so you can see what "unAmerican activities" are going on in Tucson.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...m_michael_moore

And here is the Arizona Daily Star's take as well.

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/dailystar/42119

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/metro/40009

It should also be noted that the Daily Star also endorsed John Kerry this weekend, so you'll see how biased they are in their reports of Michael Moore's appearance (not).

This is what you have to look forward to. I hope that your sense of fair play doesn't get runover like mine has.

:mad2:

[snowdude]

I'm looking forward to them coming north of the border actually...always good to have another comedy network

[transplant99]

Lanny...you should relly stop listening to Fox news before you have a heart attack!!!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by transplant99@Oct 11 2004, 06:10 PM
Lanny...you should relly stop listening to Fox news before you have a heart attack!!!

I actually have a pretty good visual of Lanny listening and writing stuff down and turning red.

Not sure if that's the reality, but knowing what the dude looks like makes it easier to picture something funny like that.

Lanny, you need help! I hope you calm down after the election. :P

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Tranny, this one really p*ssed me off. Its the station of choice (I work with some very rightwing individuals) and I can't get away from it. This was just too much. The funny thing is that everyone I work with knows better, but still listens to the garbage. I just don't get it!

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald@Oct 11 2004, 06:23 PM
Tranny, this one really p*ssed me off. Its the station of choice (I work with some very rightwing individuals) and I can't get away from it. This was just too much. The funny thing is that everyone I work with knows better, but still listens to the garbage. I just don't get it!

That's another issue altogether you know.

I guess it might not be the best thing for you politically at your office to complain, but if people are listening to stuff that bothers you they should be forced to turn it down.

[RougeUnderoos]

Now I might be all mixed up on the matter, but isn't the University of Arizona a private school? Arizona STATE being the public one?

On a related note, I love all the intellectual-bashing coming from the right-hand side.

[FlamesAddiction]

What's really bad about it are those people who feel that the FOX perspective is good because it balances what they see as "liberal" dominated media, yet so-called leftist networks are never so offensive, biligerent, and downright misinforming as FOX.

How often do you watch CBC, CNN, or BBC and see them finish a news story with a tirade full of potshots and personal insults about people? Never. I doubt if al Jazeera even goes that far. The worst thing is, the "mouth breathers" watch it and don't distinguish what is news and what is misinformation. Then they come onto messageboards and tell us that Kerry is a "coward" or "flip-flopper", and Bush is a noble-warrior.

And yes, before anyone assumes anything, I have seen their broadcasts, but even people who haven't can just go to their website and find out what they are about.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Rouge are you refering to Moore and an intellectual? Because if you are the standards have dropped significantly.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Oct 11 2004, 06:32 PM
Now I might be all mixed up on the matter, but isn't the University of Arizona a private school? Arizona STATE being the public one?

On a related note, I love all the intellectual-bashing coming from the right-hand side.

No, they are both state schools. Same with any school named after the state...whether the title has State in it or not.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Oct 11 2004, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Oct 11 2004, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RougeUnderoos@Oct 11 2004, 06:32 PM
Now I might be all mixed up on the matter, but isn't the University of Arizona a private school? Arizona STATE being the public one?

On a related note, I love all the intellectual-bashing coming from the right-hand side.

No, they are both state schools. Same with any school named after the state...whether the title has State in it or not. [/b][/quote]
Well I'll be jiggered. Thanks for straightening me out.

Mr.Mustard: no, I wasn't calling Moore an intellectual - you are right, that would be stupid. I was talking about the comments that Lanny relayed from the radio, and the "professors are communists" and in general the accepted given that "all they teach in universities these days is godless communism and extreme leftie nonsense", which is, of course, nonsense.

[CaramonLS]

The funniest part is Lanny is that those guys probably haven't watched F 9/11 and they are still all over the guy.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Oct 11 2004, 06:51 PM
Mr.Mustard: no, I wasn't calling Moore an intellectual - you are right, that would be stupid. I was talking about the comments that Lanny relayed from the radio, and the "professors are communists" and in general the accepted given that "all they teach in universities these days is godless communism and extreme leftie nonsense", which is, of course, nonsense.

Ok gotcha. Sorry about that.

[Bingo]

I just can't for the life of me understand why Fox News is treated so differently than the NBC cable news network or CNN or the others.

The news portion of all three report the news.

Then each have opinion shows where a guy may lean right or left. If you don't like a guy that leans right, ignore him, but the bottom line is that the same stories are being reported on all three in pretty much the same way (accept for CBS of course who are reporting unfounded stories seeminly alone ha ha).

Fox has O'Reilly and Hannity... NBC has Scarborough and Mathews, ... all pretty much the same in their views. CNN has a Tucker Carlson with pretty much the same vantage point.

Bottom line ... Fox did more primetime viewership in the third quarter than the other two combined. For a country split 50/50 (actually a little more towards the left by recent polls), it can't be as biased as some would like to state.

The numbers just don't add up folks.

[FlamesAddiction]

Come on Bingo. Can you really compare what happens on Fox with other networks? When it comes to sarcasm and snide comments during broadcasts, FOX is way ahead of the others.

And I don't see what ratings have to do with anything. Jerry Springer gets good ratings, as do gossip shows and other forms of cheesy entertainment.

[RougeUnderoos]

Yeah but there is a guy on the left side (how clever) of the screen when Tucker Carlson is on and that guy disagrees with everything he says. They balance it out. Same with NBC I think (though I'm not too familiar with it).

I gotta admit I've never even watched FoxNews but by all accounts, they don't have a leftie on the staff. Is that correct?

[FlamesAddiction]

Not to mention the opportunistic "Moore-ish" use of sound bites and unflattering video that FOX likes to use. It goes well beyind anything you see on other networks.

[CaramonLS]

Comparing Tucker Carlson to O'Reilly is like comparing Oprah to Springer. Tucker my be from the right, but he doesn't go off on a crazy tangent and then *CLAIM* to be an undecided voter like he did last week on the daily show.

[Resolute 14]

The irony of this is that Moore himself is probably doing cartwheels over the free publicity FOX News is giving him.

[Cowperson]

Ann Coulter will follow Moore at the University of Arizona on Oct. 21. Booked by the Republicans on Campus organization.

She and Moore are both wingnuts so its fitting each side found the extremists on their side of the fence to represent them. Whatever happened to normal people?

Tickets are free Lanny!!

You can listen to KFYI in Phoenix live at this web address and judge for yourself . . . but you'll need to register.

http://www.kfyi.com/main.html

Judging by the front page of their web site, they're not disguising who they might be leaning towards. At least the FOXnew.com actually looks non-descript and generally is inside.

The KFYI daily poll has President Bush with an 86% advantage in the last debate, so you can guess who is listening . . . . plus Lanny:

http://www.kfyi.com/dailypoll.html

If KFYI/FOX in Phoenix is good enough to make Lanny pop a corpuscle, however, they're good enough for the average folk!!

Cowperson