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Old 12-03-2006, 12:59 PM   #1
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Default Meteorite may hold secret to life outside earth

Zolensky said tiny bubbles in the rock are organic globules where the universe's earliest life forms could have been able to live, an astonishing discovery from a meteorite thought to be 4.5 billion years old - older than the Earth.

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By the way...thats Billions...not thousands of years old.
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Old 12-03-2006, 01:08 PM   #2
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I sense the Flying Spaghetti Monster's hand in this discovery.
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:53 PM   #3
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Atheist are attracted to speculative science like pedophiles are attracted to the Roman Catholic priesthood. They both enter with seemingly pure intentions but, have their own motives for being there.

How does Zolensky know this meteor's age? He doesn't. He just picked an age out of thin air that suited his purposes. He doesn't even know where this rock came from:


"They've survived somehow, intact on an asteroid for over four and a half billion years and where they come from, we don't know. But it's not from around here. It's from somewhere else."


Notice his keen powers of scientific observation at the end of the statement: "It's from somewhere else."

So what pray tell is "organic globules"? Well first of all it's not organic; it's a rock. Secondly, the globules he's talking about are just pockets within the rock that hypothetically could have held that organic matter the Zolensky imagines could have existed 4.5 billion years ago. An example of atheistic science at its finest.

"Perhaps these are like little condos arriving on earth and biology can move in later on," said Zolensky.


You just keep believing that Zolensky. Believe real hard and maybe it will come true.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:13 PM   #4
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Atheist are attracted to speculative science like pedophiles are attracted to the Roman Catholic priesthood. They both enter with seemingly pure intentions but, have their own motives for being there.

How does Zolensky know this meteor's age? He doesn't. He just picked an age out of thin air that suited his purposes. He doesn't even know where this rock came from:


"They've survived somehow, intact on an asteroid for over four and a half billion years and where they come from, we don't know. But it's not from around here. It's from somewhere else."


Notice his keen powers of scientific observation at the end of the statement: "It's from somewhere else."

So what pray tell is "organic globules"? Well first of all it's not organic; it's a rock. Secondly, the globules he's talking about are just pockets within the rock that hypothetically could have held that organic matter the Zolensky imagines could have existed 4.5 billion years ago. An example of atheistic science at its finest.

"Perhaps these are like little condos arriving on earth and biology can move in later on," said Zolensky.


You just keep believing that Zolensky. Believe real hard and maybe it will come true.
Yah, only a moron would believe in something that seems so far-fetched.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:25 PM   #5
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Zolensky said tiny bubbles in the rock are organic globules where the universe's earliest life forms could have been able to live, an astonishing discovery from a meteorite thought to be 4.5 billion years old - older than the Earth.

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By the way...thats Billions...not thousands of years old.
This would have been an interesting topic if you didn't have to go provoke yet another religon vs. atheism debate.

I was hoping no one would bite on that last line.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:42 PM   #6
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This would have been an interesting topic if you didn't have to go provoke yet another religon vs. atheism debate.

I was hoping no one would bite on that last line.
so make it an interesting debate...I knew CB would chime in.
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This would have been an interesting topic if you didn't have to go provoke yet another religon vs. atheism debate.
I agree. It discourages anyone who has the experience and knowledge on the subject from participating.

For those that believe that life may extend beyond our planet, I believe the find is quite significant for the following reasons:

1. The meterorite is of a rare carbonaceous composition, and carbon is known to be one of the building blocks of life.

2. The situation in which it was found is very unusual i.e. on an ice covered lake shortly after impact. That, plus the manner in which it was handled, maximizes preservation and rules out contamination.

I agree that what the scientists find in their investigations is purely speculative. I would also caution that a lot of what is published on subjects of high interest like this, are designed to sell newspapers, etc.

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Old 12-03-2006, 10:59 PM   #8
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so make it an interesting debate...I knew CB would chime in.
It usually becomes a ****-fest though.

I like reading through the religious debates...put in a point here and there...but I hate it when people starting bashing one side...or throwing in un-necessary last 'shots' to make it 'interesting.'
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Old 12-04-2006, 09:03 AM   #9
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I think it's more amazing that an outdoorsman found the meteorite and immediately stored it in his cooler. In most Sci-Fi/Horror flicks you see the hick that finds it pokes it with a stick or licks it or something.
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Old 12-04-2006, 09:08 AM   #10
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It usually becomes a ****-fest though.

I like reading through the religious debates...put in a point here and there...but I hate it when people starting bashing one side...or throwing in un-necessary last 'shots' to make it 'interesting.'

I have to agree, but that seems to be Cheese's M.O.

He brings up an article that would otherwise spark some interesting discussion, but can't resist throwing in a jab at anyone who he deems ignorant (though in the case of those who beleive the world is only 5000 years old I'd tend to agree, but I choose not to be a jerk about it). Then when people call him it, he says something along the lines of "Hey I'm a humanist, I didn't try to debate your fairy tales, I accept people because I'm nice, even stupid ones who beleive stupid fairy tales. Besides, I started this thread about science, you brought up your fairy tales".

And mayhem ensues. I realize I'm not doing much to help the situation right now, but I suppose that's what he wants.

With that all being said, I think this is a pretty interesting find, but not necessarily unique. People have found meterites that have shown evidence of life from other plantes (Mars in particular, anyone remember the fosolized bacteria debate) before. But I don't think that the debate will ever be fully decided untill one of two things is found:

1) actual sill living organisms from some other planet
2) fosil or other remains of something more complex than a single celled organism

Untill one of those is found there will always be dabate about what other events/processes could have formed the "evidence" that people find, and seeing as how we don't know what other kind of things could be happening in other parts of space, it'll be tough to say for sure where some of these things came from.
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