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Flames in 07 · 10-31-2006, 06:36 PM

Why do the polls stick WVA in the national title spot vs the winner of OSU vs Michigan at this point in the year?

20 teams could run through WVA's schedlue of cupcakes.

I'd take a one loss SEC team before any midmajor anyday.

JayP · 10-31-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames in 07

Why do the polls stick WVA in the national title spot vs the winner of OSU vs Michigan at this point in the year?

20 teams could run through WVA's schedlue of cupcakes.

I'd take a one loss SEC team before any midmajor anyday.

Well, they do got Louisville on Thursday and Rutgers in a month so get it some time before you write them off (although I think they'll lose both games).

College polls don't mean a whole lot until the end of the season. The only reason WVA (and Louisville too for that matter) are ranked in the top 5 is because of preseason polls. It just so happens that both teams have their tough games closer to the end and one will probably end up flaming big time.

Flames in 07 · 10-31-2006, 09:39 PM

If your two big games are Louisville and Rutgers ... that still not much of a schedule. Those two are unbeaten because they have cupcakes scheds too.

Pre season polls are bad, their disregard for strength of sched is worse.

Displaced Flames fan · 11-01-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames in 07

If your two big games are Louisville and Rutgers ... that still not much of a schedule. Those two are unbeaten because they have cupcakes scheds too.

Pre season polls are bad, their disregard for strength of sched is worse.

They can't control who is in their conference, and its hard for non-elite programs to schedule tough non-confrerence opponents.

I think West Virginia is legitimate though. They have unbelievable talent on offense.

Frankly, they should be playing Ohio State every year. That's a natural rivalry, but OSU knows they don't have to schedule anything tough out of conference because their conference opponents will be good enough to get them where they want to be.

Steve Slaton is the Heisman winner right now IMO.

Flames in 07 · 11-01-2006, 05:28 PM

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They can't control who is in their conference, and its hard for non-elite programs to schedule tough non-confrerence opponents.

I think West Virginia is legitimate though. They have unbelievable talent on offense.

Frankly, they should be playing Ohio State every year. That's a natural rivalry, but OSU knows they don't have to schedule anything tough out of conference because their conference opponents will be good enough to get them where they want to be.

Steve Slaton is the Heisman winner right now IMO.

Well, I'm sure there's some folks in Austin who would take exception to the concept that they never schedule tough out of conference.

But regardless, that doesn't matter because they have as tough a in-conference sched as it gets.

It seems to me that we have too many BCS conferences.

btw, WVA has a choice about it's conference ... just ask Miami.

I hope the winner of OSU and Michigan absolutely kills WVA so people start think about if its ok for those with cupcake schedules to coast into the championship game.

JayP · 11-01-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames in 07

If your two big games are Louisville and Rutgers ... that still not much of a schedule. Those two are unbeaten because they have cupcakes scheds too.

Pre season polls are bad, their disregard for strength of sched is worse.

WVA, Lousville, Rutgers, and Pittsburgh as well are all very good football teams. Sure the rest of the conference isn't great, but it's better than the bottom half of the SEC. I don't get how the media complains that the 1-loss SEC teams won't be given much of a chance for a national championship when IMO the Big East is in a very similar situation. A handful of great top 25-30 teams and a handful of bottom feeders.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens the rest of the way. If Michigan can beat Ohio State I wouldn't put it out of the question to see a rematch for the national championship..

Flames in 07 · 11-01-2006, 06:04 PM

Pitt won 3 years ago, and got creamed by Utah ... my only experience watching any of those teams. I guess this years bowl season will tell us how good they are.

JayP · 11-03-2006, 01:46 AM

Well WVA won't be considered for a National Title anymore - Louisville just ended those hopes. Louisville/Rutgers next Thursday is absolutely HUGE now.

Flames in 07 · 11-04-2006, 07:34 AM

JayP can you really say with a straight face that the Ville really derserves a shot at the NC? If Rutgers win next week do they? Top to bottom, the PAC 10, Big XII, Big 10 and SEC absolutely would dominate the Big East.

To an athlete the best teams in this major conferences have better players.

Big East is a mid major, they should have their own series of bowls with the WAC and CUSA.

Antithesis · 11-04-2006, 07:18 PM

The end to the season will certainly be interesting to see which team ends up against Ohio State/Michigan ... so many are still a part of the picture.

Flames in 07 · 11-04-2006, 11:51 PM

well at this point, my vote would be for either Texas or Florida. Both have 1L in very tough conferences.

USC has been dancing with danger all year, and really don't show like a NC, and since OSU has already shown Texas who is boss, I'm hoping it is Florida.

Flames in 07 · 11-10-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

They can't control who is in their conference, and its hard for non-elite programs to schedule tough non-confrerence opponents.

I think West Virginia is legitimate though. They have unbelievable talent on offense.

Frankly, they should be playing Ohio State every year. That's a natural rivalry, but OSU knows they don't have to schedule anything tough out of conference because their conference opponents will be good enough to get them where they want to be.

Steve Slaton is the Heisman winner right now IMO.

Big East isn't looking to hot now. Nothing says mid-major quite like Rutgers running the table. I love the BCS, but we need to do a better job of differentiating who is a BCS eligable conference.

JayP · 11-10-2006, 11:46 PM

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Big East isn't looking to hot now. Nothing says mid-major quite like Rutgers running the table. I love the BCS, but we need to do a better job of differentiating who is a BCS eligable conference.

I'm not a fan of the whole Big East is mid-major stuff. If the Big East teams are so bad and SEC teams are so great then why do SEC teams refuse to schedule WVA and Louisville year after year. I read an article on ESPN saying how Louisville has done everything possible to get non-conference games against upper SEC teams to no avail.

The SEC simply schedules weak non-conference schedules and then cries poor when no one can go undefeated.

KTown · 11-10-2006, 11:53 PM

The people picking hte national championship dodged a huge bullet by Rutgers beating Louisville.

What if the Rutgers beat WVA and are undefeated at that time should they be considerd a national championship team?

Stupid BCS voting, there should be a playoff with the top teams.

JayP · 11-11-2006, 12:46 PM

Another team who is supposed to be better than than WVA, Rutgers, and Lousiville is looking REAL impressive.

#5 Auburn is getting killed by Georgia - Cox has completed 3 passes..and given up 4 picks. The SEC sure is dominant!

Displaced Flames fan · 11-11-2006, 12:55 PM

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The people picking hte national championship dodged a huge bullet by Rutgers beating Louisville.

What if the Rutgers beat WVA and are undefeated at that time should they be considerd a national championship team?

Stupid BCS voting, there should be a playoff with the top teams.

And I don't buy the reasons given for not doing it either.

Keep all the bowl games and rotate them throughout the bracket each year. Make sure every (or most) playoff game is on a different night.

There are 32 bowl games....the playoffs should include 32 teams. Get rid of the conference champiobship games and you'd have the time.

The only time I really watch college football is during the I-AA playoffs. Great stuff and division 1 woudl do well to emulate it in their own grandiose style.

transplant99 · 11-11-2006, 01:42 PM

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And I don't buy the reasons given for not doing it either.

Keep all the bowl games and rotate them throughout the bracket each year. Make sure every (or most) playoff game is on a different night.

There are 32 bowl games....the playoffs should include 32 teams. Get rid of the conference champiobship games and you'd have the time.

The only time I really watch college football is during the I-AA playoffs. Great stuff and division 1 woudl do well to emulate it in their own grandiose style.

Agreed...and the most absurd part of all of it?

There will be 50 FIFTY days between the end of Ohio's season and the BCS championship game. Obviously this includes the 2 weeks of Xmas break for the kids, but so what?

That would still allow at least 3 weeks, if not 4, for playoff games.

Its a joke.

Just noticed Auburn got thumped at home for the 2nd time this season...and this club was #5 in the nation? Sure thing.

A positive for me in all this however, and combined with Louisville choking away their chance on Thursday, if USC runs the table, they will the best argument to get into the big game among the 1 loss teams.

There is no way that Boise St nor Rutgers, even if going undefeated, will get a sniff of the big one, so it would come down to the loser of the Ohio St/Michigan tilt, Texas, Florida (who could be a 2 loss team and still win the SEC) and Notre Dame to make a stronger argument to play in the big one.

I think SoCal can make the strongest bid among those to get in...assuming again, that they beat Cal, ND and UCLA.

rubecube · 11-11-2006, 03:11 PM

Mark my words...Florida vs Michigan for the national title. I love Ted Ginn and Ohio State but Chad Henne is the man.

transplant99 · 11-11-2006, 03:24 PM

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Mark my words...Florida vs Michigan for the national title. I love Ted Ginn and Ohio State but Chad Henne is the man.

Fla may get a shot....but they best pick it up right now. Tied at 7 with SC in the 3rd. At home. Not good enough.

rubecube · 11-11-2006, 03:26 PM

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Fla may get a shot....but they best pick it up right now. Tied at 7 with SC in the 3rd. At home. Not good enough.

Yeah...This blows I'm at work and the people I work with are watching Batman (the ****ty one with the nipples). I need my college ball!