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flambers · 11-10-2006, 12:33 PM

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/news_story/?ID=183657&hubname=

Very interesting move by the Stamps. I wonder who will be the next offensive coordinator.

Cheese · 11-10-2006, 12:35 PM

So Buratto takes the fall for Burris's incompetance?

flambers · 11-10-2006, 12:37 PM

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So Buratto takes the fall for Burris's incompetance?

I guess one of them had to go....... There are so few quality QBs out there the Stamps are stuck with Burris so they better find an Offensive Coordinator that can work with him.

Bench Warmer · 11-10-2006, 12:38 PM

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So Buratto takes the fall for Burris's incompetance?

Interesting scapegoat indeed. If anything, I thought Creehan might be on the hot seat a little. Two questionable defensive schemes led to two TDs by the Riders in the semi-final.

Shazam · 11-10-2006, 12:45 PM

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So Buratto takes the fall for Burris's incompetance?

I'm still hoping Burris goes too.

Both of them had to leave. It became very clear during the season that Buratto's schemes weren't working and that the players had difficulty with his overly-complex schemes.

It wouldn't surpise me to see at least a couple of receivers gone soon.

Pagal4321 · 11-10-2006, 01:16 PM

Burris is not going anywhere...he will be here until 2008. At least that's my opinion. When he's good, he's really good....but when he's bad (like the playoffs), he's just hideous.

I just don't see them getting rid of Burris because who the hell are they going to replace him with?
Printers won't come back to the CFL, he probably has a good shot at making the Cheifs roster next year.
Dickenson? No thanks.

troutman · 11-10-2006, 01:17 PM

Chevy and Nasty were quite candid on thier show this week on Fan 960. They hinted at some real bad attitudes and cliques in the dressing room. Anyone know more about that?

http://forum.gostampsgo.com/showthread.php?t=5873

Shazam · 11-10-2006, 01:19 PM

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Burris is not going anywhere...he will be here until 2008. At least that's my opinion. When he's good, he's really good....but when he's bad (like the playoffs), he's just hideous.

I just don't see them getting rid of Burris because who the hell are they going to replace him with?
Printers won't come back to the CFL, he probably has a good shot at making the Cheifs roster next year.
Dickenson? No thanks.

If they can't find a replacement, he's still here. I'd speculate though if they can find someone, he's good as gone.

Too bad Jim Barker can't find a QB to save his life.

flambers · 11-10-2006, 01:22 PM

As for the QB debate.... the fact is who is better than Burris and is readily available?

Dickenson - - -- Is really expensive and is injury prone
Printers - - -- I bet he stays in the NFL.
Maas - - - - Had a tough year, would rather have Burris

If I had my choice the Stamps need to find a quality QB backup that will push Burris for the #1 job. Wally has done this perfectly in BC.

calf · 11-10-2006, 01:27 PM

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If they can't find a replacement, he's still here. I'd speculate though if they can find someone, he's good as gone.

Too bad Jim Barker can't find a QB to save his life.

It's too bad that the CFL in general can't find great QBs regularily. BC and Edmonton are the only teams I can really think of that have been successful in recruiting the next great young QBs.

I think Burratto's lack of imagination & lack of a good, solid game plan around ball control did him in. I don't disagree with the move, but I'm more concerned about the next OC, and how he'll be able to adapt to Hank's Strengths and Weaknesses (assuming Burris is back - which, imo, is 50-50 at this point).

Pagal4321 · 11-10-2006, 01:29 PM

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(assuming Burris is back - which, imo, is 50-50 at this point).

50-50? Really? IN all seriousness if we get rid of Burris, who do we bring in to replace him. Because there's no way this team is better with Danny Mac as a starter.

calf · 11-10-2006, 01:50 PM

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50-50? Really? IN all seriousness if we get rid of Burris, who do we bring in to replace him. Because there's no way this team is better with Danny Mac as a starter.

given the backlash of the fans, as well as some of the post game comments, there's some doubt in my mind if the organization think Hank's the guy to take them to that next level - that's one 50. There's no one in our system that can really take over, you're right (which is the other 50). If Hank is deemed not to be that guy, I could see Barker trying to swing a trade (part of the first 50). It will be tough with the SMS kicking in, however.

I dunno - I don't think anything will surprise me this off season.

flambers · 11-10-2006, 02:06 PM

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given the backlash of the fans, as well as some of the post game comments, there's some doubt in my mind if the organization think Hank's the guy to take them to that next level - that's one 50. There's no one in our system that can really take over, you're right (which is the other 50). If Hank is deemed not to be that guy, I could see Barker trying to swing a trade (part of the first 50). It will be tough with the SMS kicking in, however.

I dunno - I don't think anything will surprise me this off season.

Who would Barker trade for thats the key question? I can see no-one in the East and in the West only BC has two quality QBs that would be of interest but Dickenson is a risk due to his health.

In my opinion the Stamps and Burris are stuck together. The only option is to try to find a gem out there somewhere and hopefully Barker can sign him.

Shazam · 11-10-2006, 02:11 PM

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It's too bad that the CFL in general can't find great QBs regularily. BC and Edmonton are the only teams I can really think of that have been successful in recruiting the next great young QBs.

Yup. I've always regretted the firing of Buono. I'm fairly certain it wasn't Roy Shivers that found the QB gems.

Bench Warmer · 11-10-2006, 02:14 PM

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given the backlash of the fans, as well as some of the post game comments, there's some doubt in my mind if the organization think Hank's the guy to take them to that next level - that's one 50. There's no one in our system that can really take over, you're right (which is the other 50). If Hank is deemed not to be that guy, I could see Barker trying to swing a trade (part of the first 50). It will be tough with the SMS kicking in, however.

I dunno - I don't think anything will surprise me this off season.

Another factor weighing in on this is that I think TO will be looking for a QB as well. And to be honest, Hamilton might be willing to shop Maas and Berry in Winnipeg has never really fully endorsed Glenn. I think the potential is there for a bit of QB carousel this year (Dickenson will go to TO IMO, Allen put to pasture) but I don't think it'll happen. I just can't see the Stamps not bringing back Burris next year - I don't think there's a better option out there unless there's a trade...

worth · 11-10-2006, 02:36 PM

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Yup. I've always regretted the firing of Buono. I'm fairly certain it wasn't Roy Shivers that found the QB gems.

Buono was pretty much run out of town by F-Troop. If we actually had decent management at that time, things would probably be different.

Shazam · 11-10-2006, 02:50 PM

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Another factor weighing in on this is that I think TO will be looking for a QB as well. And to be honest, Hamilton might be willing to shop Maas and Berry in Winnipeg has never really fully endorsed Glenn. I think the potential is there for a bit of QB carousel this year (Dickenson will go to TO IMO, Allen put to pasture) but I don't think it'll happen. I just can't see the Stamps not bringing back Burris next year - I don't think there's a better option out there unless there's a trade...

There's no guaranteed contracts in the CFL, so if Dickenson is going to be moved, Calgary would be his first choice IMHO. The Stamps would simply release Burris.

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Buono was pretty much run out of town by F-Troop. If we actually had decent management at that time, things would probably be different.

Don't get me started on those assclowns

JiriHrdina · 11-10-2006, 02:59 PM

Bah. Color me unimpressed with this decision and somewhat surprised. I think Buratto is a great offensive coordinator and put his guys in a position to excel. I'm certain it wasn't in his playbook for "Hank" to repeatedly throw of his back foot into triple coverage.

Boo. Not impressed at all. Whenver the Stamps start to get me back as a fan, they do something that just pushes me away.

JohnnyFlame · 11-10-2006, 03:02 PM

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So Buratto takes the fall for Burris's incompetance?

No he takes it for his crappy playcalling. Guy never utilized what they have and his playcalling in that semi-final was brutal. But yes you are right Burris ain't the answer but I would think you keep him while getting two replacements in waiting and then midseason he is adios.

JohnnyFlame · 11-10-2006, 03:06 PM

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Buono was pretty much run out of town by F-Troop. If we actually had decent management at that time, things would probably be different.

Yep all this talk of no replacement for Burris is out and out hogwash. Buono always seems to manage to have 2 and even 3 capable QB's. Bring in two guys and have them up to speed by mid-season. Then move Burris for help elsewhere.