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Old 11-12-2006, 12:50 AM   #1
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Lots of interesting reading this Sunday morning.

A thought provoking article on the Canadian Armed Forces

http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/National...14105-sun.html

As expected the US vetos a moderate UN Resolution to condemn Israeli, blocking an independent investigation into the deaths of civilians.

(Interesting to finally see the article recognizing that there are moderates on the Palestinian side)

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...cle1963445.ece

Conservative Justice Minister wants to let the Police choose Federal Judges. Hurray - lets make Canada a Police State!

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/po...45807b&k=44136

Conrad Black uses lots of big words in a bizarre editorial. Todays word is "ululations".

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/s...db93160a4c&p=1

And coincidentially Lord Black has decided he'd like his Canadian citizenship back.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003254157
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Conservative Justice Minister wants to let the Police choose Federal Judges. Hurray - lets make Canada a Police State!
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It's not about letting police decide who the judges are...they are not the final say. It is about having some input from people who are the main players in the criminal justice system. Or maybe we should keep hiring tree huger judges who keep letting these criminals out on bail and given light sentences. The police reps can tell the judges what their concerns are and provide industry input to help pick the most well rounded judges.
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And coincidentially Lord Black has decided he'd like his Canadian citizenship back.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003254157
"Tuff titty said the kitty when the milk went sour". The guy was to good to be Canadian before....but now that he is facing deportation...he wants his citizenship back?

I don't think so.
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:11 AM   #4
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It's not about letting police decide who the judges are...they are not the final say. It is about having some input from people who are the main players in the criminal justice system. Or maybe we should keep hiring tree huger judges who keep letting these criminals out on bail and given light sentences. The police reps can tell the judges what their concerns are and provide industry input to help pick the most well rounded judges.
You do realise that in criminal prosecutions the police are almost always called as Crown witnesses and that they are urged to push for convictions. It is an aspect of the adversarial system. Police have a vested interest in one side of prosecutions, so do you see how there might be a conflict of interest?

As for "letting... criminals out on bail", well that just betrays that you either don't subscribe to the core Canadian value of presumption of innocence, or that you are ignorant of the matter. If the latter, I shall explain: in Canada we (those who subscribe to Charter values and principles of fundamental justice) believe that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and therefore these potentially-innocent people should not be imprisoned before that time. In a bail hearing a tree-hugging judge must consider whether the accused is a threat to society or a flight risk before granting bail. As a result of sensationalist media causing people like you to prejudge Canadians as criminals, judges now also have to weigh whether public perception dictates against the release of an accused.

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