More pot please...

[Red Mile Style]

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewa...rie-plant.html

Zettl wouldn't specify how much marijuana his company has to produce, but did say it grew 420 [ ]kilograms last year and the demand has jumped by about 80 per cent over last year.

More than 1,400 Canadians are authorized to possess marijuana for medical purposes.

Last month, Ottawa cut a $4-million program to study the medically therapeutic properties of cannabis, as part of cost-saving measures.

Since the number of people requiring medicinal marijuana is rising at a very high rate, I don't think it was such a good idea for the federal government to cut a program that studies the effects of the drug. I think this is sending a dangerous message. If the government doesn't care what the drug does, why should anyone else?

[sec304]

"marijuana is rising at a very high rate"

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by fotze

Why not let the private companies study it, like other drugs.

There are only 1,400 people "authorized" to use it so it's probably not enough of a moneymaker to be something a big drug company would be interested in.

There a millions of potential clients for a drug that makes your ticker tock or your dick dock but very few potential clients for reefer madness.

[Red Mile Style]

Originally Posted by sec304

"marijuana is rising at a very high rate"

Hee hee hee... pun intended!!!

[Red Mile Style]

Originally Posted by fotze

Why not let the private companies study it, like other drugs.

I don't know about pharmeceutical legislation, and I'm not sure if other countries have legalized medicinal marijuana yet, but I think that the Canadian government is playing a large role in the medicinal marijuana industry. In the article it said:

The company has signed a one-year contract extension with Health Canada to grow the medical marijuana and has received its largest order in the past five years

Which leads me to believe that this is different than just another ADHD or depression drug. Marijuana itself is pretty controversial, and I think that since Canada is probably one of the few countries that have legalized it for medical purposes, it is up to the government to make sure that there is no long term effects etc.

[White Doors]

I heard that the government stuff was crap. Weren't they growing that in an abandoned mine in Manitoba or something?

[Devils'Advocate]

Yes, the government stuff is crap. The fellow with the office next to me suffers from MS and he has smoked marijuana for tremors and pain. He said that smoking from the government supply was like smoking cardboard. It did nothing and tasted/smelled awful. They are allowed to grow their own, however, which is what most of them do.

I posted this in another thread. If you claim that the government should get out of testing marijuana and leave it to private industry, please list two private companies that are currently researching marijuana. You can't say that the government should cut all funding for marijuana research because private industry is knocking down their door to do the research if you have no proof of such research.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

There are only 1,400 people "authorized" to use it so it's probably not enough of a moneymaker to be something a big drug company would be interested in.

There a millions of potential clients for a drug that makes your ticker tock or your dick dock but very few potential clients for reefer madness.

LOL!!

[jolinar of malkshor]

[quote=Devils'Advocate;603854] please list two private companies that are currently researching marijuana.quote]

Two new medical marijuana studies seek patients:
Dr. Donald Abrams is looking for patients to participate in two new marijuana studies he is conducting at San Francisco General Hospital. If you have HIV-related painful neuropathy or cancer and are interested in participating in one of these studies, please e-mail Hector Vizoso, R.N. or call him at 415-476-9554, ext. 366
http://www.maps.org/mmj/index.html#ongoing

http://www.maps.org/mmj/

PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES ATTEMPT TO SYNTHESIZE MARIJUANA
http://www.mapinc.org/alert/0195.html

Medical Marijuana Hits Stock Market
http://www.aidsvancouver.org/news/archive/?id=256

Shall I continue?

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

There are only 1,400 people "authorized" to use it so it's probably not enough of a moneymaker to be something a big drug company would be interested in.

There a millions of potential clients for a drug that makes your ticker tock or your dick dock but very few potential clients for reefer madness.

Oh, I'd say there are more that aren't authorized that would be if they could be... Problem is it's not something you 'manufacture'... you can just grow it. And a person authorized can grow their own.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Oh, I'd say there are more that aren't authorized that would be if they could be...

Ya think?

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Ya think?

Yes, meaning the laws were more lax, meaning it's not just 1400, but potentially tens of thousands. Everyone with arthritis would/should apply. That's a lot of people right there.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by fotze

Why not let the private companies study it, like other drugs.

http://www.drugdevelopment-technolog...jects/sativex/

there's also another drug called marinol

So they can develop a synthetic form that is 1000 times the cost, in limited supply, with the possibility of far worse side effects? All the while receiving large grants and government funding only to patent their publically subsidized, inferior product that won't see the market for another 10 to 20 years? I don't understand that position. Why not just grow a WEED in your back garden? I've done it by accident.

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

There are only 1,400 people "authorized" to use it so it's probably not enough of a moneymaker to be something a big drug company would be interested in.

There a millions of potential clients for a drug that makes your ticker tock or your dick dock but very few potential clients for reefer madness.

This is not true. One of the largest opponents of any kind of lenient marijuana legislation is the Pharmaceutical industry. They stand to lose trillions of dollars if more people start to realize that a readily available windowsil plant is capable of performing the same functions as the 22 of the 28 different medications my friend John takes for HIV. Or for the multitude of ever changing medications to treat everything from Glaucoma to Alzheimers, from Addiction Withdrawal to testicular cancer. There is lots of money to be made in the treatment of those diseases, and hundreds of others, including the two largest pharmaceutical endeavours, Depression and Impotency.

There isn't 1400 people registered because that's the demand. There's 1400 people registered because it's nearly impossible to receive a license. The BC Compassion Club has members in the tens of thousands and exclusive growing contracts with over a hundred growers.

[Red Mile Style]

Originally Posted by fotze

What's there to study, it makes them feel better. I bet if people with diseases were given state sponsored sex with hot women once a week they will have better quality of life.

The government should just legalize the **** and stop wasting time and money. Maybe if they could study and reduce the laziness of the users that would be worthwhile.

Of corse the government should just legalize the stuff, but I can see this having the adverse effect. I can see the Conservative government saying that not enough is known about the drug, or not enough people use it or something like that to thwart any efforts to legalize/decriminalize marijuana (medicinal or not). Obviously stopping any studies is a step backwards toward further lenience of the drug.

Maybe the people who benefit from marijuana can be expanded, or maybe the government can truly study what the safest form of taking the drug is etc... I think it is important to gather this information independantly rather than through the private sector as they will probably try to gather data that will benefit them, rather than society (Pharmeceutical companies aren't known for their morals...).

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

...

Shall I continue?

You last link proved my point. It states that there are only a handful of companies researching medicines derived from cannibus. And states why (high cost, stigma).

[White Doors]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

You last link proved my point. It states that there are only a handful of companies researching medicines derived from cannibus. And states why (high cost, stigma).

If you claim that the government should get out of testing marijuana and leave it to private industry, please list two private companies that are currently researching marijuana.

He got ya.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

You last link proved my point. It states that there are only a handful of companies researching medicines derived from cannibus. And states why (high cost, stigma).

There are private companies researching it. That is my point. You said, show me two.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Red Mile Style

Of corse the government should just legalize the stuff, but I can see this having the adverse effect. I can see the Conservative government saying that not enough is known about the drug, or not enough people use it or something like that to thwart any efforts to legalize/decriminalize marijuana (medicinal or not). Obviously stopping any studies is a step backwards toward further lenience of the drug.

Maybe the people who benefit from marijuana can be expanded, or maybe the government can truly study what the safest form of taking the drug is etc... I think it is important to gather this information independantly rather than through the private sector as they will probably try to gather data that will benefit them, rather than society (Pharmeceutical companies aren't known for their morals...).

Well, the canadian senate stated 5 years ago that they suggest outright legalization. What good is the senate though, when the American DEA has an office in vancouver...

[JohnnyFlame]

This thread reminds me of the RHINO party.

One of their platforms was something like we should legalize pot (pause for effect) and pan and knife and fork and all the kitchen items.

It's time for the RHINO party to make a comeback!!!

[Red Mile Style]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Well, the canadian senate stated 5 years ago that they suggest outright legalization. What good is the senate though, when the American DEA has an office in vancouver...

Really?!?!

That's nuts!

Edit: Yay! My 420th post in a pot thread!
Thanks for the heads up Flash!