Oedipus complex

[Fuzzy McGillicuddy]

** Shudder ** O_o

Link: mom has drunken sex with sons

[peter12]

What kind of kid do you have to be, one that has a girlfriend, to let your mom go down on you?

[FlamesAddiction]

What a bunch of mofos.

[Five-hole]

Was she hot?





Sorry, had to do it.

[nfotiu]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@Oct 2 2004, 11:36 PM
What a bunch of mofos.

[Fobulous]

That is so brutal

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

It is sort of odd thought that when it is a mother having sex with her sons, it is something that we can somewhat joke about. However when the tables are turned and it is the father who abuses the daughter we are all shocked and horrified. No I am not stating the father abusing the daughter is a light laughing matter, as it is sick and wrong and something that I find repulsive (and for good reason). I find it odd that there is a double standard however.

I have the feeling that everyone involved here has some significant mental problems however. This is what shocked me though, the mother had to be put into a detoxification clinic! What the hell is someone who is in a detox clinic doing with custody with children. Come on she has proven she isn't responsible enough to run her own life, so lets give her a couple of kids. Yikes.

[Incinerator]

Oh dear...what has this world come to...at least Oedipus didn't know what he was doing initially

[kipperiggy]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Oct 2 2004, 08:49 PM
It is sort of odd thought that when it is a mother having sex with her sons, it is something that we can somewhat joke about. However when the tables are turned and it is the father who abuses the daughter we are all shocked and horrified. No I am not stating the father abusing the daughter is a light laughing matter, as it is sick and wrong and something that I find repulsive (and for good reason). I find it odd that there is a double standard however.

I have the feeling that everyone involved here has some significant mental problems however. This is what shocked me though, the mother had to be put into a detoxification clinic! What the hell is someone who is in a detox clinic doing with custody with children. Come on she has proven she isn't responsible enough to run her own life, so lets give her a couple of kids. Yikes.

However, the article makes a good point, as to why it seems like a double standard:

He said such cases are rare, especially when they involve a woman. "We see it the other way around, where the father's abusing the daughter way more frequently," Poland said.

That's why it seems like a joke... because it rarely, almost never, happens that the mom is the culprit. It is so unheard of that it is shocking and almost laughable (although, of course, it is not!)
It is simply stating a fact when one says that the father abuses the daughter kind of cases happen more often. Because they do. Of course, I agree that either case is horrifying and wrong.

However, the double standard appears again in a similar situation. If a woman sleeps around, she's a slut. But if a man sleeps around, he isn't a "man slut". So it's not as if the men are the only ones looked down upon.

[peter12]

In cases like this it was clearly consensual MMM, when the father does it to the daughter it is rape.

My question is, how does woman on male rape even happen?

[HOZ]

eew.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by peter12@Oct 3 2004, 03:49 AM
In cases like this it was clearly consensual MMM, when the father does it to the daughter it is rape.

My question is, how does woman on male rape even happen?

Consensual. I don't know about that. She gave her children alcohol, which is by far the biggest date rape drug that there is. She gave her teenaged sons alcohol and then tucked them in or had sexually explicit conversations. I don't know how consensual that should be considered. This isn't meant to sound rude, but if a father gave his daughter alcohol to the extent that this mother did (the article said the son was drunk) he would be tossed in jail (and it is a good thing) so damn quick it would make your head spin. This really shouldn't be considered consensual.

I was actually studying that for school and the easy answer is we will never know an answer. First, it is the social idea of a man getting raped is impossible and almost a laughable concept. I don't know if I was raped whether I would be able to walk into a police station and tell anyone. To be honest I would be afraid that I would get the looks that I am sure many people would give to a guy who says they have been raped (by a female)... what are you talking about guy type of look. That skews the figures a lot.

There are all sorts of reasons, such as the man doesn't know what to do or where to go. There are a huge amount of resources available to abused females, as well there should be, but at the same time there are none or seeminly there are none I should say available for men. That is the simple answer. I could find some statistics for you if you would like. I would just have to send a few e-mails out to a couple of professors.

EDIT: going off memory the rates are actually quite high, something like 1/5 men have been sexually assaulted.

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard+Oct 3 2004, 03:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mean Mr. Mustard @ Oct 3 2004, 03:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-peter12@Oct 3 2004, 03:49 AM
In cases like this it was clearly consensual MMM, when the father does it to the daughter it is rape.

My question is, how does woman on male rape even happen?

I was actually studying that for school and the easy answer is we will never know an answer. First, it is the social idea of a man getting raped is impossible and almost a laughable concept. I don't know if I was raped whether I would be able to walk into a police station and tell anyone. To be honest I would be afraid that I would get the looks that I am sure many people would give to a guy who says they have been raped (by a female)... what are you talking about guy type of look. That skews the figures a lot.

There are all sorts of reasons, such as the man doesn't know what to do or where to go. There are a huge amount of resources available to abused females, as well there should be, but at the same time there are none or seeminly there are none I should say available for men. That is the simple answer. I could find some statistics for you if you would like. I would just have to send a few e-mails out to a couple of professors.

EDIT: going off memory the rates are actually quite high, something like 1/5 men have been sexually assaulted. [/b][/quote]
As a sidenote, I believe there were some statistics a few years ago showing that one in 10 married men are victims of physical spousal abuse.

An interesting read:

http://www.sheridanhill.com/batteredmen.html

Cowperson

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Thanks for the link Cow. It is somewhat sad that there isn't any more information out there about men who are raped. I keep thinking that there have to be some people carrying around a huge amount of emotional baggage just because there is nothing they really can do about it, or no one they can turn to.

Upon further investigation I was able to find a few statistics on male rape. 1/8 rapes/attempted rapes were against males.

This made up around 2.78 million men in America have been raped, or attemped to have been raped. Those are some very shocking facts in my opinion. I think the most important thing to realize was that these men are not alone... sorry for turning this into a really depressing topic.

[calf]

Upon further investigation I was able to find a few statistics on male rape. 1/8 rapes/attempted rapes were against males.

Not to challenge you or anything, but do you know how many of these attacks were done by men? I would think the vast majority of them.

[Reaper]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Oct 2 2004, 08:49 PM
I have the feeling that everyone involved here has some significant mental problems however. This is what shocked me though, the mother had to be put into a detoxification clinic! What the hell is someone who is in a detox clinic doing with custody with children. Come on she has proven she isn't responsible enough to run her own life, so lets give her a couple of kids. Yikes.

If you're an alcoholic and you are trying to get sober you go to detox first so you can work on your sobriety without having alcohol in your system. It's not unusual at all.

Most alcoholics are really good at hiding their alcoholism so that's why her kids were allowed to visit her. She didn't have full custody of them.

[FlamesAddiction]

I thought it said in the story that the kids were just visiting when the sex happened, and she didn't have custody. I'm too lazy to go back and read it again though.