09-08-2006, 06:41 AM
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Has lived the dream!
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Send me your links! U.S. (or important media) links Iraq to 9-11
Need some help.
Just want to show someone I am debating with the amount of energy the U.S. government used to show a corrolation between Saddam/Iraq and 9-11. Yes techincally they are right when they say they never OFFICIALLY claimed that Iraq ORCHASTRATED it, but we all heard the lines of propaganda. So I'm asking all you govt. watchers and conspiracy theorists to give me those links.
Govt is the best, but lets through in some O'Reilly as well!
Oh yeah, and if you got the Brown FEMA tapes, that's awesome too. Him warning the govt.
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09-08-2006, 07:00 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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this is a pretty loaded question... but i'll bite for some debate.
fact is they were careful to not OFFICIALLY link the two, but i think someone would be crazy to think that there wasn't an effort underway to link them. news reports had al-quaeda reports back-to-back with iraq news for a year leading up to the attacks. some interesting quotes in this link:
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...=2006608310321
WHEN President Bush declared last week that "nobody has ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered" the 9/11 terrorist attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very surprised.
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As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. … We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address: "And this Congress and the American people must recognize another threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
And in his "Mission Accomplished" photo op, May 1, 2003: "In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front."
Mr. Cheney was even more specific: In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning "more and more" about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda. This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims. In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam "had long-established ties with al-Qaeda."
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of "suggested" is, but this much is clear: The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that "nobody has ever suggested" that the Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush presidency.
this connection case was made by the administration, whether they OFFICIALLY said so or not. to pretend otherwise is... an interesting viewpoint.
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09-08-2006, 08:08 AM
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Has lived the dream!
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Hahah it wasn't a question Loogs (can I call ya Loogs?) I'm looking for those juicy links. And yeah I'm on the same page as you. We all know what they said and what they did, it' just the wording they are trying to get of on now.
Keep em coming people. Lots of em! Appreciate em!
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09-08-2006, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daradon
Hahah it wasn't a question Loogs (can I call ya Loogs?) I'm looking for those juicy links. And yeah I'm on the same page as you. We all know what they said and what they did, it' just the wording they are trying to get of on now.
Keep em coming people. Lots of em! Appreciate em!
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Loogs is acceptable.
as to the links - you shouldn't have much trouble finding ammo in this fight.
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09-08-2006, 08:52 AM
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Has lived the dream!
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agreed, looking for the overwheling victory, this guy claims, while he knows what happened, never heard the govs links between the two.
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09-08-2006, 09:31 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
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A few seconds of Google searching found these. I think this is your overwhelming victory.
Footage from F9/11, showing Condoleeza Rice saying the exact quote, " There is a tie between Iraq and what happened on 9/11." (around the 35s mark).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pUq73vk7Rg
Clip from the Daily Show, showing Bush saying, " The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We've removed an ally of Al Qaeda and cut off a source of terrorist funding." (around the 1:25 mark).
http://www.zippyvideos.com/944285379...heneylies/400k
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09-08-2006, 03:22 PM
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