Guess the next contracts

[FBI]

Royle was saying flames are close on a few like Wolf, Coronado, Zary etc.
I think Klapka is an RFA too, what are your guys guesses for these guys next contracts?

[PepsiFree]

$1, Bob.

[Vinsta13]

Amount X Years:
Coronato 7x8
Wolf 8x8
Zary 5.5 x 5
Frost 6 x 4
Klapka: 2x2

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinsta13

Amount X Years:
Coronato 7x8
Wolf 8x8
Zary 5.5 x 5
Frost 6 x 4
Klapka: 2x2

These are pretty good guesses and I'd like them all.

[gvitaly]

Coronato: $6.75M x 6
Wolf: $8.25M x 7
Zary $3.2M x 2
Frost $4.75M x 1
Klapka: $1.2M x 2

[Macho0978]

Coronato - 6 years $7.75 Mil
Frost - 5 years $6.25 Mil
Zary - 2 years $4.25 Mil
Klapka - 3 years $1.75 Mil

Wolf - 8 years $8.75 Mil

I think the AAVs for most the guesses are a bit low for the term.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Wait to see what the comparables get. Unless Conroy thinks he's exceptionally shrewd.

[Yeah_Baby]

Why would Coronto and Wolf sign for so long?

[ballin]

Why are signing Morgan frost to six year deals here?

I like Coronato a lot but 7. whatever feels high. Maybe that's just the old me and I understand that 7 mill is not what it used to be but still feels high.

I'm really really weary of signing Morgan frost to anything more than a couple of years.

In a lot of ways this is an important summer as you hope to have some top end talent acquired through the next two drafts and need money to sign those players when the time comes.

[Ruttiger]

So this group is thinking Wolf gets $8m+ over 8 years after 1 full season in the NHL? This would put him as, at minimum, the 7th highest paid goalie in the league. Interesting.

*Edit - maybe 9th highest. Still in the top 10.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Vinsta13

Amount X Years:
Coronato 7x8
Wolf 8x8
Zary 5.5 x 5
Frost 6 x 4
Klapka: 2x2

I think that's a bit rich for Coronato. He has one full season and put up 47 points. He's got a ways to go before UFA status, and he's not a Tkachuk level prospect. I see him getting bridged and then maybe a contract like that, if he improves on his numbers.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

So this group is thinking Wolf gets $8m+ over 8 years after 1 full season in the NHL? This would put him as, at minimum, the 7th highest paid goalie in the league. Interesting.

*Edit - maybe 9th highest. Still in the top 10.

How many NHL goalies are legit starters capable of starting 50+ games, who don't suck. Dustin Wolf is getting that kind of a contract, because, among goalies with 40+ games, his stats are top 10. He's tied for 6th in Save Percentage and he was 14th in GAA (despite playing on an inconsistent team).

With cap inflation and the way goalie contracts have been going, I'd definitely lock up Wolf at $8 million long-term. I actually doubt he takes that, and my guess is he bridges himself, waits for the cap to go up an immense amount in 2-3 years, and then demands the big bucks.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Coronato: $6.75M x 6
Wolf: $8.25M x 7
Zary $3.2M x 2
Frost $4.75M x 1
Klapka: $1.2M x 2

You think that little for Zary? Not sold on Zary yet?

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by blankall

I think that's a bit rich for Coronato. He has one full season and put up 47 points. He's got a ways to go before UFA status, and he's not a Tkachuk level prospect. I see him getting bridged and then maybe a contract like that, if he improves on his numbers.

I think they guess lines up very nicely on that term. Coronato is 22 so 7 years buys 2 years of UFA status.

I could see a bridge contract offered as well but the rumors say long term. I can't imagine 4 or 5 years makes much sense for the Flames.

[Buff]

I'm not good at this but I'll try...


Coronato 7x7
Wolf 6.4 x 2
Zary 6x6
Frost 6.25n
Klapka: #43
Morton: 10x10
Bahl: 5x5

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by ballin

Why are signing Morgan frost to six year deals here?

I like Coronato a lot but 7. whatever feels high. Maybe that's just the old me and I understand that 7 mill is not what it used to be but still feels high.

I'm really really weary of signing Morgan frost to anything more than a couple of years.

In a lot of ways this is an important summer as you hope to have some top end talent acquired through the next two drafts and need money to sign those players when the time comes.

Age of the player factors in. Very little chance he takes 1 or 2 years. Don't see why the Flames wanting 1-3 years as he is a UFA in a year.

Flames IMO will want 4 or more years. I think he gets 5 years.

Cap hits around $5 Mil to $7 mil are not that bad when guys are making $14 mil.

[Vinsta13]

Originally Posted by blankall

I think that's a bit rich for Coronato. He has one full season and put up 47 points. He's got a ways to go before UFA status, and he's not a Tkachuk level prospect. I see him getting bridged and then maybe a contract like that, if he improves on his numbers.

Paying for potential. Coronato & Wolf are ideal 'sign for potential' players before the flames are elite again. You aren't paying for what they have done you are offering them what you think they will be. When Flames are competing again and you already have 2 core pieces locked to reasonable contracts (cause I'm sure cap will be 120M by then) Flames are laughing.

Best way to manage cap with younger player imo. Lots of teams are doing it now.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Wolf is going to want to be paid. He got 7th-rounder money the last time around.

He might not even want to stay here long term (there... I said it).

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Vinsta13

Paying for potential. Coronato & Wolf are ideal 'sign for potential' players before the flames are elite again. You aren't paying for what they have done you are offering them what you think they will be. When Flames are competing again and you already have 2 core pieces locked to reasonable contracts (cause I'm sure cap will be 120M by then) Flames are laughing.

Best way to manage cap with younger player imo. Lots of teams are doing it now.

Wolf is a calder candidate and deserves to get paid. Coronato is a great prospect, but far from a blue chipper.

I agree that a lot of players are getting long-term "potential contracts", but how many teams have signed anywhere near $8x8 to a player with a single NHL season and 47 points under their belt?

[FlamesAddiction]

I suspect that the main point for Klapka will be one-way versus two-way.

I could see them going two ways here regarding term. Short term, like 1 or 2 years at around the Rooney rate ($1.3 million AAV), or long term for slightly more. If the Flames think he has a good chance of elevating his game, they may see if they can lock him down for 5 years at like $2.5 million AAV. You don't see those kinds of deals often, but they seem to be becoming more frequent.

It just depends on if Klapka wants to bet on himself for a more lucrative deal in a couple of seasons, or if the Flames want to risk overpaying in the short term for getting a potential bargain in the future. Kind of like what the Caps did with Protas.