Sens deal for review (last one)

[Jiri Hrdina]

Team: Montreal Canadiens



- Teravainen, Teuvo (LW) NHL

- Stecher, Troy (D) NHL

- Pettersson, Oskar (RW) ECHL





Team: Ottawa Senators



- Terry, Troy (C) NHL

- Zub, Artem (D) NHL


Ottawa Senators sends Montreal Canadiens $4.25 million for the 2023-24 season

[SportsJunky]

I'm not really feeling this one. i know Ottawa's training wheels are about to come off but this one seems a little skewed. Montreal get 2 RFA-aged players for a rental in Stecher and an older but still decent Teravainen. Ottawa sends money to boot. Not sure it's a fair swap.

[simmer2]

I tend to agree with SportsJunky, the deal really isn't that close. Terry is RFA aged, as is Zub.

I think the thing for Ottawa to learn here is the value of RFA guys Vs UFA guys. He is undervaluing those ages and contracts.

[Macho0978]

I voted yes to this one. I think the RFA status vs UFA status gets over blown in this league. Especially when the UFA is a younger UFA.

Teravainen also is locked in for 2 more years after this year for what is already a value contract. If the plan in Ottawa is to load up to go for a tittle in those 2 years, having a guy that could be rated 72-75 OV at $4.25 mil is the best asset to have in this trade, even if Terry is younger.

Probably overpaid to get it done, but timing is key and what a GM's plan is also key. I'm not sure what his plan is, but he seems to have one and overall has made good trades, so I trust he knows what he is doing.

Quality prospect added too as last year draft was deep.

[agulati]

Yeah I’m not so sure about this one being even

[Blaster86]

Artem Zub probably doesn't need to be in this deal.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Let's get some more votes!

[savardandjokinen]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I voted yes to this one. I think the RFA status vs UFA status gets over blown in this league. Especially when the UFA is a younger UFA.

Teravainen also is locked in for 2 more years after this year for what is already a value contract. If the plan in Ottawa is to load up to go for a tittle in those 2 years, having a guy that could be rated 72-75 OV at $4.25 mil is the best asset to have in this trade, even if Terry is younger.

Probably overpaid to get it done, but timing is key and what a GM's plan is also key. I'm not sure what his plan is, but he seems to have one and overall has made good trades, so I trust he knows what he is doing.

Quality prospect added too as last year draft was deep.

Yup, the difference between youth and vets does exist but I feel like it’s overblown a lot of the time in this league

[Harry Lime]

Yeah, I understand the reasoning. Terry is still 76OVR. Both players probably rate similarly next year, and TT's cap is good. The prospect makes up the difference.

I think that you eliminate Stecher and Zub from this and it's a fair trade.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Yup, the difference between youth and vets does exist but I feel like it’s overblown a lot of the time in this league

It really does. The advantage is the 1M/year savings in cap, but if the vet is on a good hit for 2 or 3 years, there isn't as much difference in value. They are just shinier.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Yeah, I understand the reasoning. Terry is still 76OVR. Both players probably rate similarly next year, and TT's cap is good. The prospect makes up the difference.

I think that you eliminate Stecher and Zub from this and it's a fair trade.

Yes, this is finicky, but the point of the review system is to get right into the nooks and crannies.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Yeah, I understand the reasoning. Terry is still 76OVR. Both players probably rate similarly next year, and TT's cap is good. The prospect makes up the difference.

I think that you eliminate Stecher and Zub from this and it's a fair trade.

When a GM comes in, we review trades to protect him. IMO this deal is not franchise altering trade. Hard part is, sometimes a new GM is looking to buy low on a player or sell high on another and the rest of the league might not share the same opinion.

Terry is good, but he's been the guy on a rebuilding team and getting all the ice time by default. Anaheim is slowly adding some pieces and Terry could be a good sell high guy as it already seems he is starting to share that ice time with younger players with a higher ceiling.

Teuvo could be a buy low guy, he has battled injuries and had a down year last year but could be having a bounce back season. I still think this could go either way over the course of the next few years.

Year 1 - Montreal wins
Year 2 - Ottawa could win.

There is a good chance this goes well for Ottawa next year and this trade isn't killing his franchise, I say let it go through.

[Harry Lime]

Value isn't bad, for the reasons you stated. I like that we all come together to talk about trade value once in a while!

[savemedrzaius]

Seems an okay deal to me. I say yes.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Only 13 votes?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Approved

[Ped]

Thanks everyone for considering all aspects and helping me out along the way.