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Old 06-20-2023, 10:23 PM   #1
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Thought this would be a reasonably interesting topic to see people's opinions.

Say you're GM of the Blackhawks. What do you expect in exchange for Bedard?

What package from the Flames would you find acceptable?

3x 1st rounders? Lindholm and a couple firsts?

Do you just say outright it is not a tradeable asset? How good is Bedard going to be?
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:24 PM   #2
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Old 06-20-2023, 10:25 PM   #3
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Outright untradable. They made over $5MMin ticket sales within 24 hrs of the lottery win. What will they make off jerseys and other merch.
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The Flames don’t have the assets to trade for Bedard. Lindholm +++ isn’t close.

The 2023 first overall pick might be the most valuable asset in the NHL.
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There is nothing the Flames could offer that would have me trade Bedard.

There are few players in the NHL I would trade 1 for 1 and few teams with packages that would make sense.
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If for some reason Bedard said no way to the Hawks I feel like it would be a toss up between Arizona and Anaheim on who could put together the best package. Either Fantilli and MacTavish for Arizona it could be Cooley + 6th overall + 12th overall. Maybe more from both sides but I couldn’t see that being topped.

You basically need a team who has been tanking and has a bunch of prospects on ELC’s. Picks from the 21,22,23 drafts.
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Is kidnapping and ransoming Kyle Davidson's wife and children off the table?

Because I think thats about all that might do it.
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Is kidnapping and ransoming Kyle Davidson's wife and children off the table?

Because I think thats about all that might do it.
My pick was compromising photographs but this might work. Working time machine might also do it.
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Impossible. There's no package the Flames could offer for it.

I think there's only about 2-3 players in the league they would even consider starting a conversation. McDavid, Makar, Mackinnon perhaps.
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Connor McDavid would do it, but even then, you might only be getting 3 years of him.
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Is kidnapping and ransoming Kyle Davidson's wife and children off the table?

Because I think thats about all that might do it.
I’m in.
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Impossible. There's no package the Flames could offer for it.

I think there's only about 2-3 players in the league they would even consider starting a conversation. McDavid, Makar, Mackinnon perhaps.
Really? That is interesting to me. NO possible package for Bedard?

What about the next 5 yrs of 1sts, 2nds, 3rds, Lindholm, Kadri w/ 90% salary retained, Hanifin salary retained, Wolf, and Rasmus Andersson?

No package? Really?

There's a package likely possible from every team, let's be honest. The kid is great, but will he really be the next McDavid, Makar, or Mackinnon? Odds are not.
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Really? That is interesting to me. NO possible package for Bedard?

What about the next 5 yrs of 1sts, 2nds, 3rds, Lindholm, Kadri w/ 90% salary retained, Hanifin salary retained, Wolf, and Rasmus Andersson?

No package? Really?

There's a package likely possible from every team, let's be honest. The kid is great, but will he really be the next McDavid, Makar, or Mackinnon? Odds are not.
Thats not realistic.
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2nd overall, Zegras + McTavish + 2024 1st.
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Really? That is interesting to me. NO possible package for Bedard?

What about the next 5 yrs of 1sts, 2nds, 3rds, Lindholm, Kadri w/ 90% salary retained, Hanifin salary retained, Wolf, and Rasmus Andersson?

No package? Really?

There's a package likely possible from every team, let's be honest. The kid is great, but will he really be the next McDavid, Makar, or Mackinnon? Odds are not.
Odds are he’s as good as a guy like Mackinnon or Matthews
Those guys add tens of millions to franchise value
A small number of teams could offer a compelling package such as the Ducks
But certainly not the Flames
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Thats not realistic.
Why?

That's the point of the thread. At some point the value tips to being fair, doesn't it? Why is it not realistic? If he's as good as everyone in here says he is, there should be a price that is do-able and realistic.

He's not "untradeable", is my point. So what is fair value for the pick?
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2nd overall, Zegras + McTavish + 2024 1st.
LOL oh my god, I do this deal everyday of the week if I am the Hawks. Yikes.

What do you think the actual delta is between Bedard and the 2nd pick, and you're going to add Zegras, McTavish and next year's first to that?!
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