12-20-2005, 08:47 AM
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Iran bans western music
Today, though, the sounds of hip-hop can be heard blaring from car radios in Tehran's streets, and Eric Clapton's "Rush" and the Eagles' "Hotel California" regularly accompany Iranian broadcasts.
No more — the official IRAN Persian daily reported Monday that Ahmadinejad, as head of the Supreme Cultural Revolutionary Council, ordered the enactment of an October ruling by the council to ban all Western music, including classical music, on state broadcast outlets.
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. . . . women are prohibited from singing in public, except to a segregated female-only audience. Hard-liners were afraid the voice of a woman soloist might arouse impure thoughts in men. Women are allowed to sing as part of a chorus.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...n1139859.shtml
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12-20-2005, 08:48 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowperson
Today, though, the sounds of hip-hop can be heard blaring from car radios in Tehran's streets, and Eric Clapton's "Rush" and the Eagles' "Hotel California" regularly accompany Iranian broadcasts.
No more — the official IRAN Persian daily reported Monday that Ahmadinejad, as head of the Supreme Cultural Revolutionary Council, ordered the enactment of an October ruling by the council to ban all Western music, including classical music, on state broadcast outlets.
Also . . . .
. . . . women are prohibited from singing in public, except to a segregated female-only audience. Hard-liners were afraid the voice of a woman soloist might arouse impure thoughts in men. Women are allowed to sing as part of a chorus.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...n1139859.shtml
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Obviously these people have never heard of Celine Dion Cow!
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12-20-2005, 09:07 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Does the Iran public support this guy?
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12-20-2005, 09:16 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Can we ban country and western music? At least the "new country" crap?
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12-20-2005, 09:42 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowperson
Also . . . .
. . . . women are prohibited from singing in public, except to a segregated female-only audience. Hard-liners were afraid the voice of a woman soloist might arouse impure thoughts in men. Women are allowed to sing as part of a chorus.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...n1139859.shtml
Cowperson
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We could offer to send Jan Arden and Rita McNeil over to Iran to show the Iranian hardliners that not all female singers inspire "impure thoughts."
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12-20-2005, 09:58 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Here I thought their dislike (hardliners) for the "west" was entirely based upon foreign policy and religious differences only.
They hate the West for everything we are....IE:....not like them.
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12-20-2005, 10:46 AM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Here I thought their dislike (hardliners) for the "west" was entirely based upon foreign policy and religious differences only.
They hate the West for everything we are....IE:....not like them.
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Wrong. The low-income and poor who rallied to elect the radical conservatives into Iran are the ones who might agree with that statement, because marginalization tends to make you more fundamental.
But for 8 years, Iran was ruled by moderates and reformists that tried to bring Iran closer to the west and there is quite a large student population as well as moderates among the overall population who want change.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/x/iran_stu.htm
And the reason the hardliners are against Western Music IS a religious difference. They believe that the West is the Great Satan and our culture is corrupting and sinful.
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12-20-2005, 11:00 AM
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Franchise Player
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Ban
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"This president speaks as if he is living in the Stone Age. This man has to understand that he can't tell the people what to listen to and what not to listen to," said Mohammed Reza Hosseinpour as he browsed through a Tehran music shop.
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The ban applies only to state-run radio and television. Tehran residents, accustomed to the relaxed rules and rare enforcement of such restrictions in the past 10 years, seemed unconcerned that it might signal a return to the wider restrictions imposed during the revolution.
"Don't take this man (Ahmadinejad) seriously," said Pari Mahmoudi, a teen driving in the capital, as the Eagles' "Hotel California" blared from the car speakers.
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12-20-2005, 11:04 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
And the reason the hardliners are against Western Music IS a religious difference. They believe that the West is the Great Satan and our culture is corrupting and sinful.
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yes i umderstand that.
though im not sure what religion is involved with the named songs, particularly Hotel California.
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12-20-2005, 11:09 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Moncton NB
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now if only we could get rap music banned here in Canada!
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12-20-2005, 01:03 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
yes i umderstand that.
though im not sure what religion is involved with the named songs, particularly Hotel California.
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I guess Snopes is banned over there as well.
http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.htm
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12-20-2005, 01:09 PM
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarkey
Does the Iran public support this guy?
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He'll have his constituency but broadly, probably not.
An expanded article indicating the music was continuing in Iran today, with comments from the street.
"This president speaks as if he is living in the Stone Age. This man has to understand that he can't tell the people what to listen to and what not to listen to," said Mohammed Reza Hosseinpour as he browsed through a Tehran music shop.
The shop's owner said he did not expect the president's ban to be implemented.
"Clerics and officials speak about imposing restrictions every other day. I don't think it's going to be enforced," said Reza Sadeghi as he counted some bills he received from the sale of an Eric Clapton tape.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...usic20-ON.html
Cowperson
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12-20-2005, 01:15 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Vancouver
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Where are the people whose pro-Iraq war argument was that removing Saddam Hussein would create pro-western sentiment in Iraq's neighbours?
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12-20-2005, 01:24 PM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarkey
Does the Iran public support this guy?
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Based on the numbers from wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_presidential_election%2C_2005)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad recieved 19% of the vote during the first round of elections (29 million people turned out 62.66% of the population).
And then 61-62% of vote in the second round of elections of roughly 28 million voters (which is around 59.6% of Iranian population).
Which turns out to be about 17 million people voted for him, with a total population of around 47 million people, which is about 36% of the total population.
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12-20-2005, 01:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Boy they really like that Hotel California.
That second article makes it pretty clear that even though they elected him, Manouchehr Q. Public isn't too fond of this hardcore conservative garbage.
"Don't take this man (Ahmadinejad) seriously," said Pari Mahmoudi, a teen driving in the capital,
That's funny.
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12-20-2005, 01:40 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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No classics like Lady Lumps for them?
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12-20-2005, 01:47 PM
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arsenal
Based on the numbers from wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_presidential_election%2C_2005)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad recieved 19% of the vote during the first round of elections (29 million people turned out 62.66% of the population).
And then 61-62% of vote in the second round of elections of roughly 28 million voters (which is around 59.6% of Iranian population).
Which turns out to be about 17 million people voted for him, with a total population of around 47 million people, which is about 36% of the total population.
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So . . . . . 36% of the population voted in favour of a guy who had some help when moderate candidates with views opposing his own were banned by a council of unelected Mullahs which really runs Iran.
Iran actually seems like a fairly moderate population . . . . . but radicals control the mechanisms of government so you don't really know that for sure.
Cowperson
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12-20-2005, 03:32 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Singapore
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I think it's clear from the comments that the values of Iranians have changed since the revolution twenty-five years ago.
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12-20-2005, 05:11 PM
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Location: Vancouver
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I can just picture mass protests and revolution, and rebellious youth dancing in the streets to "Hotel California"
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