10-04-2022, 12:35 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Oct 4 Waiver wire
Last edited by sureLoss; 10-04-2022 at 12:37 PM.
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10-04-2022, 12:45 PM
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#2
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Tyler Wotherspoon..I remember when it seemed like he may have potential.
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10-04-2022, 12:48 PM
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#3
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#1 Goaltender
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I got a bit of a scare when I saw Wolff.
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10-04-2022, 12:50 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tony-soprano
Tyler Wotherspoon..I remember when it seemed like he may have potential.
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To think we selected him over Kucherov at the chagrin of the scouting staff and you just have to laugh. I totally get the hindsight argument too but of all the examples of this that every team has this one gets me the most.
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10-04-2022, 12:51 PM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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IIRC Oskar Steen unexpectedly improved in the SHL post draft. He's a bit small but someone might be interested and snap him up.
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10-04-2022, 12:52 PM
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#6
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
To think we selected him over Kucherov at the chagrin of the scouting staff and you just have to laugh. I totally get the hindsight argument too but of all the examples of this that every team has this one gets me the most.
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Hunter Smith over Brayden Point is way, way worse. If only because Point was a calgarian playing in the WHL and didn't have any of the numerous red flags Kuch did.
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10-04-2022, 12:53 PM
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#7
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Still though, pulling Kucherov and Gaudreau out of that draft would have lead to deeper runs no doubt. Point hurts too especially because of the Calgary ties and him lighting up the dub.
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10-04-2022, 12:54 PM
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#8
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Hunter Smith over Brayden Point is way, way worse. If only because Point was a calgarian playing in the WHL and didn't have any of the numerous red flags Kuch did.
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Sure was, but all 30 teams at the time made the same mistake.
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10-04-2022, 12:57 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Noah Juulsen, that's a guy who had some hype around him in his draft year.
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10-04-2022, 12:57 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Still though, pulling Kucherov and Gaudreau out of that draft would have lead to deeper runs no doubt. Point hurts too especially because of the Calgary ties and him lighting up the dub.
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Especially when Feaster admitted that they had their eye on both Kucherov and Gaudreau, but gambled that they would fall further. Tried to be the smartest man in the room and it backfired.
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10-04-2022, 12:58 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Hunter Smith over Brayden Point is way, way worse. If only because Point was a calgarian playing in the WHL and didn't have any of the numerous red flags Kuch did.
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This has been argued about before, but I don't see why the Flames should have had any advantage with Point. It's not like he was tucked away in some fringe league. The WHL is one of the most heavily scouted leagues. Every team saw this guy and passed. Including Tampa. Twice in the second, just like the Flames did.
The fact he was a Calgarian and in the Dub is totally irrelevant to me.
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10-04-2022, 01:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Especially when Feaster admitted that they had their eye on both Kucherov and Gaudreau, but gambled that they would fall further. Tried to be the smartest man in the room and it backfired.
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Exactly, it was Feasters biggest failure though if Colorado hadn’t matched the offer sheet on ROR that would have been much worse. Kucherov + Gaudreau would have been a money combo for years no matter the centre and both were on the Flames radar, had feaster listened to the staff it would have been a grand slam year.
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10-04-2022, 01:10 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Hey Treliving - dare you to claim Wotherspoon and put him on our top pairing, re-ignite that former Flame you coward
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10-04-2022, 01:14 PM
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#14
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All I can get
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You can make as many waiver claims as you like, right?
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10-04-2022, 01:29 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Exactly, it was Feasters biggest failure though if Colorado hadn’t matched the offer sheet on ROR that would have been much worse.
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Maybe.
I still think ROR wouldn't have required waivers, and I think you could compare ROR and Monahan over that time and it's probably pretty close results wise. ROR a better 200ft player for sure.
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10-04-2022, 01:35 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Maybe.
I still think ROR wouldn't have required waivers, and I think you could compare ROR and Monahan over that time and it's probably pretty close results wise. ROR a better 200ft player for sure.
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I wasn’t getting at the players or comparing them, I believe ROR would have required clearing waivers after the fact had Colorado decided not to match which would have resulted in the Flames losing a 1st (Monahan) to Colorado while simultaneously losing ROR undoubtedly to a team via waiver claim. Quite an embarrassing oversight by Feaster which luckily didn’t burn him!
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10-04-2022, 01:36 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
This has been argued about before, but I don't see why the Flames should have had any advantage with Point. It's not like he was tucked away in some fringe league. The WHL is one of the most heavily scouted leagues. Every team saw this guy and passed. Including Tampa. Twice in the second, just like the Flames did.
The fact he was a Calgarian and in the Dub is totally irrelevant to me.
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I only said it was a bigger whiff than missing Kucherov, who also was passed over by every team in the league. Except in Kuch's case, there were open questions about playing in Russia, while with Point it would be pretty certain that he wouldn't mind playing in Canada, Calgary specifically.
Why is everyone so acrimonious lately? The lot needs a vacation.
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10-04-2022, 01:36 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Hunter Smith over Brayden Point is way, way worse. If only because Point was a calgarian playing in the WHL and didn't have any of the numerous red flags Kuch did.
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Truculent. All about those years.
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10-04-2022, 01:41 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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ROR was a massive screwup. And even if opinions differ on interpretation we do know the league’s view was that waivers were required. Which tells me that Feaster didn’t actually do his homework because wouldn’t he have asked beforehand?
Not selecting guys that later do well is always painful but when many other teams make the same call it’s hard to judge it. Point’s hometown status might have helped with contracts later though.
Jankowski though - trading down to get a guy ranked in the 40s in round one and skipping 5 good NHLers including a stud goalie…
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10-04-2022, 01:57 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
I only said it was a bigger whiff than missing Kucherov, who also was passed over by every team in the league. Except in Kuch's case, there were open questions about playing in Russia, while with Point it would be pretty certain that he wouldn't mind playing in Canada, Calgary specifically.
Why is everyone so acrimonious lately? The lot needs a vacation.
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Or I would suggest not reading tone into a response.
I am merely countering your point. I'm not angry or upset. I'm just discussing.
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