07-25-2021, 10:00 AM
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#1
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Virtanen boughtout. Signs with KHL Spartak
Last edited by sureLoss; 09-07-2021 at 10:17 AM.
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07-25-2021, 10:02 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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You could see this one coming from miles away
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07-25-2021, 10:03 AM
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#3
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Good thing he was extended last summer....that was worth it.
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07-25-2021, 10:03 AM
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#4
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Lives In Fear Of Labelling
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You're up Marc Bergevin!
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07-25-2021, 10:03 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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The question is, how long after his buyout until Montreal offers him a contract?
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07-25-2021, 10:07 AM
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#6
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Franchise Player
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Maybe Edmonton will sign him...5x5
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07-25-2021, 10:13 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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Would be a good fit for the soon to be departed Joel Armia!
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07-25-2021, 10:30 AM
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#8
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Good thing he was extended last summer....that was worth it.
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To be completely fair, the sexual assault allegations didn’t come up until after that extension was in place.
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07-25-2021, 10:39 AM
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#9
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Franchise Player
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Step right up Marc Bergevin!
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Originally Posted by mrdonkey
To be completely fair, the sexual assault allegations didn’t come up until after that extension was in place.
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It was still a bad contract. He might have been bought out regardless.
Still doesn't make sense to me why they didn't just terminate it for violation of the morality clause a la Richards. They'd probably have to settle it but settling by definition means it's less than what you have to pay otherwise.
I doubt his buyout hurts them much cap-wise though. Maybe a few hundred K this year and next?
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07-25-2021, 10:41 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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All tool, no toolbox. With a better brain this kid would be perfect here.
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07-25-2021, 10:41 AM
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Don't click that link!
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rural Alberta
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Why should the team be punished for his conduct?
Shouldn’t this not affect their cap?
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07-25-2021, 10:44 AM
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#12
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
Maybe Edmonton will sign him...5x5
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This definitely feels like a low cost Oilers addition….
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07-25-2021, 10:44 AM
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#13
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Step right up Marc Bergevin!
It was still a bad contract. He might have been bought out regardless.
Still doesn't make sense to me why they didn't just terminate it for violation of the morality clause a la Richards. They'd probably have to settle it but settling by definition means it's less than what you have to pay otherwise.
I doubt his buyout hurts them much cap-wise though. Maybe a few hundred K this year and next?
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Nothing has been proven in court so how could they terminate his contract as part of a morality clause?
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07-25-2021, 10:45 AM
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Franchise Player
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There's no requirement for anything to have been proven in court based on the terms of the morality clause.
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Originally Posted by CBA
2. The Player agrees to give his services and to play hockey in all NHL Games, All Star
Games, International Hockey Games and Exhibition Games to the best of his ability under the
direction and control of the Club in accordance with the provisions hereof.
The Player further agrees, [...] (e) to conduct himself on and off the rink according to the highest standards of
honesty, morality, fair play and sportsmanship, and to refrain from conduct detrimental to the
best interest of the Club, the League or professional hockey generally.
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Nothing was proven in court when they did it with Richards, though in his case he was actually charged rather than just under investigation.
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Originally Posted by alan21
Why should the team be punished for his conduct?
Shouldn’t this not affect their cap?
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If they want him off the books, they only have two options under the CBA: buy him out or terminate his contract. For some reason they apparently decided the second one wasn't going to work.
You don't get to change the CBA for particular cases because the results seem unfair... the Canucks learned that with the Luongo recapture. And that was arguably way less fair than this.
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Last edited by CorsiHockeyLeague; 07-25-2021 at 10:48 AM.
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07-25-2021, 10:46 AM
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#15
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Franchise Player
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I joked about the Flames getting DeAngelo and Virtanen but maybe Montreal will actually do it as they tried to get DeAngelo
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07-25-2021, 11:06 AM
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Franchise Player
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames try to sign him, at $1M or less.
Yes, I know the issues, and yes, no tool box.
But as a 4th line RW, he is a good player. And he has speed and sandpaper. A the right price, and in the right role, I think he can help the Flames.
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07-25-2021, 11:09 AM
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#17
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames try to sign him, at $1M or less.
Yes, I know the issues, and yes, no tool box.
But as a 4th line RW, he is a good player. And he has speed and sandpaper. A the right price, and in the right role, I think he can help the Flames.
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Not with the baggage and character issues IMO. Character is a huge commodity for Treliving. See Curtis Lazar.
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07-25-2021, 11:09 AM
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#18
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Franchise Player
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A bottom 6 of:
Dube - Backlund - Pitlick
Lucic - Coleman - Virtanen
Ritchie
would be pretty terrific, and much harder to play against.
JUST GET US A GODDAMNED TOP6 RW ALREADY!!!
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07-25-2021, 11:10 AM
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#19
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I wouldn't be surprised if the Flames try to sign him, at $1M or less.
Yes, I know the issues, and yes, no tool box.
But as a 4th line RW, he is a good player. And he has speed and sandpaper. A the right price, and in the right role, I think he can help the Flames.
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Good way to get me to watch zero Flames games ever again.
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07-25-2021, 11:10 AM
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#20
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
Not with the baggage and character issues IMO. Character is a huge commodity for Treliving. See Curtis Lazar.
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yup, for sure
but at some price, it might make enough sense for him
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