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Old 03-19-2022, 04:19 PM   #1
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Old 03-19-2022, 04:20 PM   #2
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No no no no please. Go east
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Old 03-19-2022, 04:20 PM   #3
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Nope. Don't like this, especially if there's a good chance the Flames play the Wild in round 1
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Old 03-19-2022, 04:29 PM   #4
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It makes sense for them. Goaltending is pretty much the only obvious area they need improvement.

It's actually pretty amazing that they are where they are in the standings with 2 goalies close to 3.00 GAA and good, but not great SA%'s.

Fleury's stats are similar, but obviously relate more to playing on a weaker team.
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Old 03-19-2022, 04:37 PM   #5
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Poor Talbot, no respect, except from some posters here who would have preferred him over Markstrom
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I assume Minny would need to include Talbot in the trade. His non- expiring contract likely means they would have to part with that first round pick.
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Old 03-19-2022, 06:24 PM   #7
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I assume Minny would need to include Talbot in the trade. His non- expiring contract likely means they would have to part with that first round pick.
That would make some sense for both sides; MIN needs to cut costs everywhere possible for the next 3 years, so running Kahkonen and a cheap 1B makes sense.

CHI doesn't have any NHL goalies under contract next year, so Talbot would be as good as anything.

I'll predict something like MIN 1st + 3rd + Talbot for Fleury + CHI 2nd
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Old 03-19-2022, 07:16 PM   #8
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Not worried. The only team in the West that I’m worried about is Colorado.
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Meh. I'm not afraid of facing MAF and the Wild in the playoffs. Prefer to see him go East, but as long as Edmonton doesn't get him.
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I'd be a little bit concerned. MAF can steal games, their other guys are much less likely to.
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Old 03-19-2022, 07:28 PM   #11
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Meh. I'm not afraid of facing MAF and the Wild in the playoffs. Prefer to see him go East, but as long as Edmonton doesn't get him.
How about if greasers pay a king’s ransom for a UFA and they miss the playoffs?

Plus MAF holds an nmc.
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Old 03-19-2022, 07:29 PM   #12
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If the Wild get Flower, they'll be finishing top 3 in the Central and be staying in that division for the first 2 rounds. They'll be Colorado's problem.
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Old 03-19-2022, 07:30 PM   #13
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hopefully fleury doesnt want to go to MIN
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Old 03-20-2022, 08:21 AM   #14
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If the Wild get Flower, they'll be finishing top 3 in the Central and be staying in that division for the first 2 rounds. They'll be Colorado's problem.
I don't know about that. The Predators, Wild, and Blues are 1 point from each other. The Wild could easily finish in 7th or 8th place in the western conf.
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I don't know about that. The Predators, Wild, and Blues are 1 point from each other. The Wild could easily finish in 7th or 8th place in the western conf.
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The loser of that race gets a wild card, and the top 2 finish 2nd and 3rd in the division. Add Fleury to the Wild roster and I think it's a pretty good bet that they get one of those top 2 spots.
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Old 03-20-2022, 09:32 AM   #16
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There's a couple of sneaky good teams flying under the radar in the West and Minnesota is one of them. They'd be a significantly better team with a motivated MAF.
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Old 03-20-2022, 09:45 AM   #17
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I don't like this. Minny is currently our most likely 1st round opponent

Edit: I am misinformed. Most likely is actually Nashville. Minny is second (~24% chance) http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/W...c/Calgary.html

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Old 03-20-2022, 10:21 AM   #18
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Minnesota had a really high shooting percentage early in the season that has started to normalize a bit. They're still second in the NHL and 4th in goals for.

They strike me as a team that Daryl Sutter would say is outscoring other teams to win games as opposed to out checking them. They're special teams are pretty average to slightly below average and they are 19th in the league in goals against.

Better goaltending would no doubt help them out, as this last 21 games where they are 10-10-1 has seen their goaltending really struggle at times. 40 games into the season they were a top 4 record in the NHL and as close to Colorado as anyone. Now they're in a 3 team battle with the Blues and Preds to determine who'll finish 2-3 in the Division and who ends up as a Wild Card team. Adding Fleury would seem to be a pretty big boost for them as they are the team with a game in hand so if they did win it, they would end up being the 2nd place team in the Division. But if they keep playing the way they have they might come closer to missing the playoffs than anyone could have imagined at the half way mark.
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Old 03-20-2022, 11:09 AM   #19
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If MIN ends up as WC1 then it means they've slipped a bit down the stretch (or NAS has gone on a heater). I'm sure there must be some, but I can't think of any examples where a TDL goalie trade worked out particularly well.

I've always thought there are a lot of subtle nuances that can make a big difference for goalies, like developing an intuitive sense of what your teammates tend to do (especially D-men), both in front of you and when trying to play the puck to them.

Maybe he can catch up on all that in ~15 games, but I don't think he makes them any scarier than NAS or STL.
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It's not often that teams go out and change a starting goaltender at or around the Deadline.

Roloson is the one guy that I can remember that lead a team anywhere in the playoffs. But he was 8-7-4 down the stretch for the Oilers to get into the playoffs.

Other than him I remember the Blues bringing in Ryan Miller only to lose to the Blackhawks in the first round and pretty much nothing else.

It's pretty rare for a team to change out the starting goaltender this late in the season.
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