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Bingo · 12-10-2021, 08:22 AM

Game Takes: Canes 2 Flames 1 (OT)

Abbreviated version gang, sorry. Was in a box last night with customers which gives you a split focus at best.

- Flames lose three in a row
- Solid defensive battle with Canes
- Story is pucks on but not over the goal line.

IamNotKenKing · 12-10-2021, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

Game Takes: Canes 2 Flames 1 (OT)

Abbreviated version gang, sorry. Was in a box last night with customers which gives you a split focus at best.

- Flames lose three in a row
- Solid defensive battle with Canes
- Story is pucks on but not over the goal line.

Enoch Root · 12-10-2021, 10:27 AM

good game

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DoubleK · 12-10-2021, 11:53 AM

That was a really well played game by two excellent hockey teams. Flames were very unlucky not to have one of those close plays count.

In the back of my mind I was concerned that the Flames haven't played the best teams yet, and was scared that the hot start was more of a reflection of the weakness of the opposition vs the Flames being a good team. With that in mind I had this game circled on the calendar as a good test. They passed with flying colours IMO.

I felt like Lindholm got caught out playing Aho a bit soft on the GWG, a hard stride or two more and Aho probably doesn't get to the front of the net. I can't put my finger on what the problem is in OT, is it having no Gio or does the team just not have the horses to get it done. 1-6 is not a good look.

dino7c · 12-10-2021, 11:59 AM

The worst part is it should have been a statement 3 or 4-1 win against a top team if not for puck luck...just frustrating but the effort was there

6 OTL sucks but really it's the same as 3 wins...Flames keep paying like this and they will be in the playoffs and 3 on 3 won't matter

Enoch Root · 12-10-2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

That was a really well played game by two excellent hockey teams. Flames were very unlucky not to have one of those close plays count.

In the back of my mind I was concerned that the Flames haven't played the best teams yet, and was scared that the hot start was more of a reflection of the weakness of the opposition vs the Flames being a good team. With that in mind I had this game circled on the calendar as a good test. They passed with flying colours IMO.

I felt like Lindholm got caught out playing Aho a bit soft on the GWG, a hard stride or two more and Aho probably doesn't get to the front of the net. I can't put my finger on what the problem is in OT, is it having no Gio or does the team just not have the horses to get it done. 1-6 is not a good look.

Great game, fast paced, and really well played by both teams - no room to move out there.

I thought the Flames were the better team overall, but were guilty of over passing at times - which they tend to do at home, and I believe is the reason they aren't successful at home.

The Canes' PK was incredible. That is as good of a PK as you'll see.

sa226 · 12-10-2021, 12:24 PM

If the team ever gets fully healthy again, it will be interesting if Sutter goes back to the weird lines that started the season.

I'm not yearning for Ritchie to come back, he was the worst possession player on the team, but he did provide a more youthful energy that Lewis and Richardson don't provide.

I really do think this group is just tired. They've played a lot of games and at a high pace as demanded of them.

Secondary scoring should be there. Backlund, Coleman, Mangiapane and Monahan should be more than enough secondary scoring. Aside from Mangiapane, the others just aren't providing what is needed. Backlund is notoriously better in the second half of the season, hopefully that continues. Coleman is an unknown. Offensively he is definitely underperforming. Monahan is a season long wildcard and Mangiapane is the bread eater.

Even tertiary scoring should be there with Lucic and Dube. Lucic is living up to his end of the bargain. Dube is not.

In my mind the ingredients are there, but there's some line balance issues going on. Lines that look like they should work, just aren't. Backlund is slotted a bit too high and Monahan isn't deserving yet of an increased role.

It's a long season of ups and downs and I am fully confident in the management and coaching staff's ability to have this group where it needs to be.

Erick Estrada · 12-10-2021, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The Canes' PK was incredible. That is as good of a PK as you'll see.

I said in the gameday thread that it's the best PK I can remember seeing in a long time. The Flames powerplay hasn't been very good of late but last night the Flames spent more time fishing out the puck in their own end than in the Canes end. Just gaining possession in the Canes end seemed like a monumental feat. There were a few powerplays where they didn't get a shot on net and had little opportunity to. I'm interested to see how they will fare against the Oilers powerplay tomorrow night.

Gaskal · 12-10-2021, 12:38 PM

Well, since Darryl seems to know how to get his team past regulation... all hail the loser point!

Witness the TRUE power of the DARK SIDE.

Erick Estrada · 12-10-2021, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaskal

Well, since Darryl seems to know how to get his team past regulation... all hail the loser point!

Witness the TRUE power of the DARK SIDE.

He needs to crack the mystery of OT to convert some of the loser points to wins. IMO the Flames have been one of the better teams in OT for the last half decade but this season they have been unrecognizable. I don't know what happened but it seems like the more space they have on the ice the worse their passing gets.

GioforPM · 12-10-2021, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He needs to crack the mystery of OT to convert some of the loser points to wins. IMO the Flames have been one of the better teams in OT for the last half decade but this season they have been unrecognizable. I don't know what happened but it seems like the more space they have on the ice the worse their passing gets.

Two of the 4 central OT guys are gone and the third is a shell of his former self.

That said, I'd like to see a lot more Kylington with Gaudreau. Don't care who else is on the ice. And Sutter seems to go with fast skaters 100% of the time (hence Dube). You need speed out there but you need great passers and high IQ guys as well. They need to be coached to not take shots in OT until the value opportunities arise (opposite of regular time where they overpass).

Enoch Root · 12-10-2021, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

Two of the 4 central OT guys are gone and the third is a shell of his former self.

That said, I'd like to see a lot more Kylington with Gaudreau. Don't care who else is on the ice. And Sutter seems to go with fast skaters 100% of the time (hence Dube). You need speed out there but you need great passers and high IQ guys as well. They need to be coached to not take shots in OT until the value opportunities arise (opposite of regular time where they overpass).

Andersson is part of the starting 3.

I believe that you should go with fast skaters all the time, but the Flames don't.

rogermexico · 12-10-2021, 01:42 PM

I end up missing a lot of games, and only get to see the box scores. I really love having these game takes articles to get a sense of what I missed. Thanks again for providing these game in game out.

dino7c · 12-10-2021, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He needs to crack the mystery of OT to convert some of the loser points to wins. IMO the Flames have been one of the better teams in OT for the last half decade but this season they have been unrecognizable. I don't know what happened but it seems like the more space they have on the ice the worse their passing gets.

Don't blame Sutter his Kings teams were setting 3 on 3 records

Harry Lime · 12-10-2021, 02:21 PM

I'm starting to see Backlund as Charlie Sheen's 'Wild Thing' character from the Major League movies. Only before they make him get a pair of glasses. His passes are a little haphazard, and if someone else passes him the puck, it's as if he only sees it at the last second and tries to react.

I also think that if they want to have some secondary scoring they need to consider reuniting Dube and Mangiapane. They were excellent together early in the season, and were broken up to move Dube away from centre. With Monahan's improved play, a Dube-Monahan-Mangiapane line, and make the third line a traditional shutdown line.

GioforPM · 12-10-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Andersson is part of the starting 3.

I believe that you should go with fast skaters all the time, but the Flames don't.

I meant forwards. He sticks with top 4 D.

Rick M. · 12-11-2021, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Great game, fast paced, and really well played by both teams - no room to move out there.

I thought the Flames were the better team overall, but were guilty of over passing at times - which they tend to do at home, and I believe is the reason they aren't successful at home.

The Canes' PK was incredible. That is as good of a PK as you'll see.

I agree completely. Slavin is a great D-man.