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Old 12-03-2021, 11:36 PM   #1
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Flames 4 Ducks 3 (SO)

- Vladar solid in the first as he extends his streak to six games
- Gaudreau and Tkachuk filthy in the shoot out
- Most boring OT of all time
- Flames win first two on this trip against Pacific teams putting to bed the silly notion that they only win against the East.
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Old 12-03-2021, 11:39 PM   #2
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Sunday's game is in Vegas I think, re:next up.
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Old 12-04-2021, 11:21 AM   #3
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I liked Money's game tonight.
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Old 12-04-2021, 11:29 AM   #4
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I liked Money's game tonight.
I think Monahan is rebounding slowly under Sutter. I don't think he will ever be the player he was, but is getting better as the season goes on.
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I think Monahan is rebounding slowly under Sutter. I don't think he will ever be the player he was, but is getting better as the season goes on.
He’s had a fair number of good games IMO but this is the first where he was rewarded with points. The line seemed a much better fit for him.
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One thing I'm starting to notice is that the word is our on the Flames. Teams now know what they're in for when they play the Flames. If they're going to win they have to buckle down, be disciplined in their work ethic and be ready to play.

Beyond that, so far it's been a battle of wills. You saw it with the Ducks last night, they came to play, they came back from 2 goals down against a really stingy team. But the Flames just kept checking through guys for 60+ minutes, no matter the momentum, no matter the score. A well played game like that for the Ducks in December will garner a win 9 times out of 10. Not last night.

You saw it against Pittsburgh, Philly, New York, Chicago, hell most of the games so far. The Flames will to work and win is just that much higher than most of their opponents. Many teams so far have just been smothered in the 3rd period. The Ducks in my recollection were the first to find some energy from the 2 goal comeback and really push it in the 3rd. That showed in the final result.

Really good signs for this team.
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I know it was a silly narrative but I do feel better about the team beating a few Pacific teams.

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Old 12-04-2021, 12:56 PM   #8
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So Geoff Ward was fired after 24 games last year. 11-11-2.

Mr. Darryl Sutter has this team at 15-4-5 after that same stretch. And IMO this record is deciving. Some of those 5 single point losses and a couple of those outright losses can easily be wins, with the Flames the better team on the night.

What's changed? Some 4th liners, line shuffling, and third pairing defenseman...enough, but not much personell wise. The motivation, intensity, and belief that the coach has instilled and preaches is what has changed.

I'm not on the Fire Treliving campaign for every decision that doesn't go in his favour, but his mistake of listening to the players (instead of his gut) to bring back Ward after the Dallas debacle, wasted an entire season for this franchise. Even if Sutter would've been hired a few weeks earlier, they would've surpassed MTL for the playoffs last year, which I don't think would've affected his the Flames approached this offseason, as Sutter still would've brought in his players like Lewis and Richardson and Zadorv and Gudbranson.

I hope Darryl Sutter retires as a Calgary Flame. He got screwed out of a Stanley Cup here, and his forced departure (and, not being allowed to step back behing the bench as he desired) over a decade ago kicked off maybe the worst era of this franchise, thanks to his greasy successor. He proved his pedigree in Los Angeles.

He's back where he belongs, and win or lose this season it is clear how solid a coach and identity, this man is for this team and city.
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That was one of the strangest overtimes I have seen as both teams basically played not to lose. Hopefully Coleman and Monahan can form some chemistry as you say the Flames could use some supplemental scoring outside of the four top forwards.

Not sure if it's been discussed but Johnny has to have one of the best top corner wrist shots I've seen in a while. He makes it look easy.
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Old 12-04-2021, 06:32 PM   #10
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I have thought about the over and back rule a few times, didn’t realize that Burke has mentioned it. The problem is devising the repercussions. Blow the whistle and defensive zone face off? Big deal, just slows the game down.

Flames might have been tired in this one but they don’t seem to have much of a plan for generating a numerical advantage when the other team is set. Creating a mini 2 on 1. To me, it’s more of a basketball offense you need to run.
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Old 12-05-2021, 09:11 AM   #11
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Plus I love Tanev, but if he's on the ice it's to burn up a minute not to score the winner.
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9 games against the West with 2 wins in regulation does not signal all clear for the Flames in the West.

2-3 in games decided playoff style.. wins Chicago-LA Losses SJ - Winnipeg and Edmonton.

Last year Edmonton likely would have won 3 shoot out games against Winnipeg and gone on to play TB in the finals.

The theory that the East games are the same as the West games likely has more validity.

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9 games against the West with 2 wins in regulation does not signal all clear for the Flames in the West.

2-3 in games decided playoff style.. wins Chicago-LA Losses SJ - Winnipeg and Edmonton.

Last year Edmonton likely would have won 3 shoot out games against Winnipeg and gone on to play TB in the finals.

The theory that the East games are the same as the West games likely has more validity.
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The East games being the same as the West games is not a theory.

Solid trolling none the less, though
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9 games against the West with 2 wins in regulation does not signal all clear for the Flames in the West.

2-3 in games decided playoff style.. wins Chicago-LA Losses SJ - Winnipeg and Edmonton.

Last year Edmonton likely would have won 3 shoot out games against Winnipeg and gone on to play TB in the finals.

The theory that the East games are the same as the West games likely has more validity.
Really Ricky D? Are you serious?
In the playoffs you play the same team 4 to 7 games and you know what?

In those 3 losses, if they played the same way against SJ and Winnipeg, they would most likely win in 5 or 6.

Against the no goods 6 or 7.

If you do not see how different this team is to other years, I don't know what to tell you other than to cheer for your real favorite team up north and stop with this nonsense!
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The East games being the same as the West games is not a theory.

Solid trolling none the less, though
A win over Toronto does not have close to the impact as a Win over Edmonton.

That is just simple mathematics.

The important 4-point game is not a myth and can not happen against a team in a different division.
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At the end of the year, playoff seeding is determined by points, with Ws as the firs t tie breaker. Full stop.

Yes, 4 pointers help, by giving your rivals a loss, but at the end of the year, every win is worth 2 points.

So no, it is not 'just simple mathematics'
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If you lose every single game in your division, but finish with enough points, you make the playoffs.

It's just simple mathematics.
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Really Ricky D? Are you serious?
In the playoffs you play the same team 4 to 7 games and you know what?

In those 3 losses, if they played the same way against SJ and Winnipeg, they would most likely win in 5 or 6.

Against the no goods 6 or 7.

If you do not see how different this team is to other years, I don't know what to tell you other than to cheer for your real favorite team up north and stop with this nonsense!
2018-19 Against the no goods #8 team the best Flame team since 2004 won 1 game in a playoff series. that year the Flames dominated the East (21-7-4) and were good against the West (29-18-3)

I am betting the Sutter forces them to play the big game that the good teams in the West play, but they have to actually do it on the ice.
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If you lose every single game in your division, but finish with enough points, you make the playoffs.

It's just simple mathematics.
Dude .. This team is making the playoffs. They need to be ready for what they are going to face when they get there.
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