1. Rank the prospects as you like. Upside, chances, or trade value
2. I will try and do one a day which should get us to rookie camp range
3. Graduates and/or runoffs will be determined in each case
4. Please don't complain that the polls are going to deep. We go until all the prospects are ranked, so don't vote if you don't want to.
I am going to go with Werner. A look at the stat sheet isn't that exciting but there are some who think he will compete with Vlader for a spot this season. He is also the first call up if there is an injury in net. I think that is worth a vote at spot 24.
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If anyone is interested, FlamesNation is into the top 10 of their summer prospect rankings. The only guy who made their top 20 and is still on the CP board is Solovyov.
So far, guys ranked 5 spots or higher on CP vs FN include: Vlader, Kuznetsov, Kinnvall, Francis, and Poirier. Guys ranked 5 spots or lower on CP vs FN include: Gawdin, Pettersen.
Looks like the top 10 is going to be reasonably similar, though they have Gawdin and likely Phillips in their top 10. It also looks like they have a player not considered a prospect on this poll (Dube?).
If anyone is interested, FlamesNation is into the top 10 of their summer prospect rankings. The only guy who made their top 20 and is still on the CP board is Solovyov.
So far, guys ranked 5 spots or higher on CP vs FN include: Vlader, Kuznetsov, Kinnvall, Francis, and Poirier. Guys ranked 5 spots or lower on CP vs FN include: Gawdin, Pettersen.
Looks like the top 10 is going to be reasonably similar, though they have Gawdin and likely Phillips in their top 10. It also looks like they have a player not considered a prospect on this poll (Dube?).
Dube isn't in our rankings at FN.
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If that's the case, I am very confused by your choice of wording.
I said that they also have a player left in their top 20 that isn't considered a prospect in this poll. Best guess is Dube. At least I thought I said that
Solovyov was my last player in this tier so I had no choice, but it was a good choice.
For Zavgorodny, a pretty tough first AHL season (with a cup of KHL coffee) but that is not at all unexpected for a diminutive offensively-focused winger. He could climb next season after a much better sophomore season with more opportunity. Let's see if he can translate that offensive ability he showed with Rimouski to the pro level.
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Ilya Solovyov Rory Kerins
Cole Huckins
Martin Pospisil
Emil Heineman
Adam Ruzicka
Yan Kuznetsov
Jeremie Poirier
Ilya Solovyov
An intriguing late bloomer, Ilya Solovyov arrived in central Michigan as an unheralded 19-year-old Belarusian where he quickly earned the trust of his coaches and teammates and saw his usage rapidly increased as the year progressed, ultimately dominating the OHL seemingly out of nowhere. Liking what they saw, the Flames took a smart gamble on the twice-passed over prospect and he rewarded the decision by moving to the second best league in the World, the KHL, and not looking out of place or outmatched at all. In fact, Solovyov exceeded the 20-minute mark in a handful of games this season while ultimately finishing with an average of just under 17 for the season - nothing to be scoffed at for a 20-year-old defenceman in the veteran-heavy KHL. Likewise, while 9 points in 41 games doesn't stand out, this is a 20-year-old in the low-scoring KHL and the Flames were quick to sign their recent draftee ahead of earlier 2020 draft picks even. As things stand, we don't have the sample size on Solovyov we have for most drafted players, but I liken him stylistically to another defenceman who was passed over twice in the draft before getting a chance and never looking back: Alec Martinez.
Ceiling: #4 defenceman (Style: Alec Martinez)
Probable: #6/7 defenceman or KHL
Floor: AHL washout
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Here is how the two public models see this round's winner. Please note that the criteria each model uses for star and NHLer is different! JFresh/TopDownHockey will almost always be lower than Bader's as their thresholds are a much higher standard so adjust accordingly.
Hockey Prospecting
Calgary's own, and fellow Flames fan, Byron Bader runs the excellent site, Hockey Prospecting. You have likely seen his graphics before. At just $25/year his site is a wonderful resource for any fan interested in prospects. You can register here and support Bader's work if you are interested: https://hockeyprospecting.com/register/
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JFresh/TopDownHockey
JFresh and his partner TopDownHockey introduced their NHLe model this year. You will be familiar with the NHL player graphics they produce regularly. At $7/month the subscription is a no-brainer for any hockey fan. You can register here and support their work if you are interested: https://www.patreon.com/jfreshhockey
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__________________ "I think the eye test is still good, but analytics can sure give you confirmation: what you see...is that what you really believe?" Scotty Bowman, 0 NHL games played