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View Poll Results: Pick the best prospect from the following
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Kerins, Rory
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Whynot, Cameron
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08-26-2021, 08:03 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking 2021 - Round 21 Run Off
Welcome to the annual Calgarypuck Prospect Poll!
As per usual ...
1. Rank the prospects as you like. Upside, chances, or trade value
2. I will try and do one a day which should get us to rookie camp range
3. Graduates and/or runoffs will be determined in each case
4. Please don't complain that the polls are going to deep. We go until all the prospects are ranked, so don't vote if you don't want to.
Link to previous years ... Link
2021 Ranking:
1. Coronato, Matthew 44%
2. Zary, Connor 65%
3. Pelletier, Jacob 86%
4. Wolf, Dustin 40%
5. Vladar, Daniel 45%
6. Mackey, Connor 38%
7. Stromgren, William 26%
8. Kuznetsov, Yan 36%
9. Ruzicka, Adam 27%
10. Kinnvall, Johannes 29%
11. Heineman, Emil 38%
12. Francis, Ryan 30%
13. Poirier, Jeremie 46%
14. Phillips, Matthew 38%
15. Pospisil, Martin 34%
16. Pettersen, Emilio Mathias 59%
17. Gawdin, Glen 28%
18. Jordan, Cole (Run Off)
19. Huckins, Cole (Run Off)
20. Parsons, Tyler 28%
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08-26-2021, 09:43 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Ok so what is the comparison between these guys?
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08-26-2021, 10:26 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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This should be Kerins pretty easily, imo. Don't see the justification for voting Whynot over him.
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08-26-2021, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
This should be Kerins pretty easily, imo. Don't see the justification for voting Whynot over him.
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5'10" winger that was a sixth round pick
vs
6'1" defenseman that was a third round pick
Justification isn't that hard!
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08-26-2021, 10:32 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
This should be Kerins pretty easily, imo. Don't see the justification for voting Whynot over him.
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6'1" defenseman drafted in the 3rd round, vs
5'10" LW who was drafted in the 6th round, was less than a pt per game in jr, and only played 4 games last year?
I can see some justification
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08-26-2021, 10:38 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I weigh draft pedigree and height less than Kerins being a 30-goal scorer in his draft year and how he was just invited to Team Canada's WJC summer camp. His even-strength production in his draft year was crazy impressive, on par with guys who went in the first round.
Are we really penalizing him for playing four games last year? That's four more games than the vast majority of OHLers played and he only got them because the Flames' brass liked him enough to let him hang around the AHL team all year.
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08-26-2021, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I weigh draft pedigree and height less than Kerins being a 30-goal scorer in his draft year and how he was just invited to Team Canada's WJC summer camp. His even-strength production in his draft year was crazy impressive, on par with guys who went in the first round.
Are we really penalizing him for playing four games last year? That's four more games than the vast majority of OHLers played and he only got them because the Flames' brass liked him enough to let him hang around the AHL team all year.
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No, we're not penalizing Kerins for anything.
We're penalizing you for making the silly comment that there was no justification to like the other, completely different player. Especially when said player has the much higher draft pedigree, plays a more important position, and has better physical tools.
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08-26-2021, 10:43 AM
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For clarity, there is ample justification for either.
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08-26-2021, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I don't think this team needs more small wingers, especially left wingers. This team needs more help on the back end.
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08-26-2021, 10:46 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Pedigree wise I think it actually goes to Whynot. He was viewed as a potential first rounder until the COVID season, and captained the Nova Scotia CWG team.
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08-26-2021, 10:49 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Whynot certainly has different physical tools. Better? Not sure. I think Kerins' game is complemented by his 5'10" frame. He's elusive and has a low centre of gravity.
Anyway, very few OHL forwards score at a point-per-game rate in their draft year so I'm not sure why that'd be the expectation for Kerins. Here's the full list of OHL players the same age who scored more goals at even strength in 2019-20:
Jack Quinn
Marco Rossi
Cole Perfetti
Quinton Byfield scored 24 goals at 5v5 compared to Kerins' 26 but played 19 fewer games. Fellow first-rounder Jacob Perreault also scored 24 and played seven fewer games than Kerins' 64. Tyson Foerster scored 17 in 62.
Whynot is impressive but in my opinion this is Kerins without thinking twice. He'd comfortably be in my top-20, somewhere in the 15-19 range.
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08-26-2021, 10:52 AM
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I'm just pleased at #21 there are still interesting enough prospects that there's an actual debate
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08-26-2021, 10:59 AM
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#13
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I'm just pleased at #21 there are still interesting enough prospects that there's an actual debate
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It's impressive honestly. Some of these guys have legitimate NHL upside
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08-26-2021, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Section 222
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Voted for Cameron because why not?
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08-26-2021, 11:24 AM
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Join Date: May 2016
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At this point it's about who would you like to see succeed. Damn it would be great is Whynot was stud.
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08-26-2021, 12:16 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by united
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Taking face offs doesn’t mean he plays center though. I don’t know in this case because I’ve never watched him, but in lots of instances a winger will take a draw and then immediately go back to playing wing.
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08-26-2021, 12:34 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Whynot certainly has different physical tools. Better? Not sure. I think Kerins' game is complemented by his 5'10" frame. He's elusive and has a low centre of gravity.
Anyway, very few OHL forwards score at a point-per-game rate in their draft year so I'm not sure why that'd be the expectation for Kerins. Here's the full list of OHL players the same age who scored more goals at even strength in 2019-20:
Jack Quinn
Marco Rossi
Cole Perfetti
Quinton Byfield scored 24 goals at 5v5 compared to Kerins' 26 but played 19 fewer games. Fellow first-rounder Jacob Perreault also scored 24 and played seven fewer games than Kerins' 64. Tyson Foerster scored 17 in 62.
Whynot is impressive but in my opinion this is Kerins without thinking twice. He'd comfortably be in my top-20, somewhere in the 15-19 range.
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So just go straight to posting this good information about the player, instead of saying there is no justification for a different player.
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08-26-2021, 01:11 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I didn't say there's no possible justification. People are free to pick however they want. I personally just can't see the justification for Whynot given my own philosophy and Kerins' OHL trajectory.
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08-26-2021, 02:24 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Kerins, that World Juniors invite is huge
But who the hell voted for Tyler Parsons ahead of these guys? Yikes, let it go and accept that he is a bust
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