[Game Takes] Games Takes: Flames 3 Habs 1

[Bingo]

Game Takes: Flames 3 Habs 1

- Monahan with two goals including milestone 200
- Flames roll four lines again
- Montreal not all that tired this time so full marks!

[Strange Brew]

Very happy for Monahan. I've been really down on him last two years and more than anything, just want to see him put the puck in the net. He looked good tonight.

I guess putting Ritchie on the Gaudreau line helps you roll four lines. It basically frees up a better player for your bottom lines.

A lot of players have seen a pick up in their play last two games. Funny that Tkachuk not one of them yet. Maybe that's good, still lots more to get from 19 for this club. Although it seems ESPN has Tkachuk as the 2nd star so maybe he played better than I'm giving credit for.

If we're going to be serious about playoffs this year, Treliving has got to find some scoring help.

[Jacks]

Good to see all 4 lines rolling and playing solid.

[SeanCharles]

Also Kylington looked good

[Flamescuprun2018]

Kylington looked poised and fast. A reset for him as well. The fast tempo quick breakout Sutter approach suits him well.

Suggest changing the green and yellow font (so hard to see). Black for great numbers, grey for middling numbers and blue for poor numbers would be easy to see for highlight the pairings/goalie differences (especially if bolded).

[transplant99]

Agreed on Kylington Bingo....noticeable for the right reasons.

His best game as a Flame that I remember. Valimaki was getting dicey at times as well recently but looks like he has settled back down.

Its funny what a little more effort from the guys on the ice produces, particularly when playing and keeping things simple. Playing an identical system to that of the last 2 coaches, yet all of a sudden looks 100 times better. Focus on details, move your feet at all times, and trust your team mates to be doing the same. Darryl is able to get this out of his players, and its refreshing to watch. Great start to things and hope it continues.

[Moneyhands23]

I hate how optimistic I am becoming. Optimism is a dangerous thing for a Flames fan :/

[ricardodw]

Sutter is worth 7M x 3

If he isn't the highest paid coach in the league he took a home town discount.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

sutter is worth 7m x 3

if he isn't the highest paid coach in the league he took a home town discount.

ok?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Very happy for Monahan. I've been really down on him last two years and more than anything, just want to see him put the puck in the net. He looked good tonight.

I guess putting Ritchie on the Gaudreau line helps you roll four lines. It basically frees up a better player for your bottom lines.

A lot of players have seen a pick up in their play last two games. Funny that Tkachuk not one of them yet. Maybe that's good, still lots more to get from 19 for this club. Although it seems ESPN has Tkachuk as the 2nd star so maybe he played better than I'm giving credit for.

If we're going to be serious about playoffs this year, Treliving has got to find some scoring help.

Guessing Sutter is pretty happy with Tkachuk's line last night.

They didn't get a lot done on the score board (0-0), but they were air tight which I think is the reason they didn't play down the stretch on Saturday night.

I still think he's fighting it ... confidence? But at least his line has been pretty good of late. Dube and Tkachuk were 4th-5th in xGF% last night at 77%. (6-1 in high danger splits).

Kylington ... would like to see more of that clip where he catches Byron. Why was he so deep in the first place?

But yeah bobbled the puck a bit, but he has to be rusty. Deserves more games with that effort.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Guessing Sutter is pretty happy with Tkachuk's line last night.

They didn't get a lot done on the score board (0-0), but they were air tight which I think is the reason they didn't play down the stretch on Saturday night.

I still think he's fighting it ... confidence? But at least his line has been pretty good of late. Dube and Tkachuk were 4th-5th in xGF% last night at 77%. (6-1 in high danger splits).

Kylington ... would like to see more of that clip where he catches Byron. Why was he so deep in the first place?

But yeah bobbled the puck a bit, but he has to be rusty. Deserves more games with that effort.

That is the problem with expectations... Last year he was clearly the best Flames skater for the whole year and on most games. That was helped by Gaudreau, Monahan, Gio Lindholm having a drastic fall in play from 2018-19.

Now he is still without doubt one of the best Flames players but not 20% better than anyone else.

Hockey Stats cards has him as a close second to Gaudreau for this year.,

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

That is the problem with expectations... Last year he was clearly the best Flames skater for the whole year and on most games. That was helped by Gaudreau, Monahan, Gio Lindholm having a drastic fall in play from 2018-19.



Now he is still without doubt one of the best Flames players but not 20% better than anyone else.



Hockey Stats cards has him as a close second to Gaudreau for this year.,

This is not so much a problem of "expectations" as it is an issue with the NHL economy. In simple terms: player values are dramatically different now than they were two years ago because of COVID. They were dramatically different in 2019 when Tkachuk signed as an RFA than they were in 2016 when Monahan and Gaudreau were extended.

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[868904]

Tkachuk does so much more even without putting up points.

He's been criticized lately but honestly, I thought his best game of the season was in the loss to the Oilers. He doled out a ton of big hits and him standing in front of the net led to two Flames goals.

Standing in front of the net is one of the hardest and most thankless jobs in hockey. You risk taking a shot yourself and you are getting hammered by the opposition defense.

Last night, he was in front of the net again battling which led to the game winner by Monahan.

He's on a 64 point pace this season compared to 72 last season. So he's not that far off from where is was. With Darryl, we will probably see the other parts of Tkachuk's game improve but the points will probably stay at the current pace.

I think under Darryl, we aren't going to see the fancy goals from this team anymore. There's going to be a lot more ugly goals and hard working goals in front of the net. It may seem like our offensive players are struggling or aren't doing what they are use to, but as long as the team is winning by playing the right way, that's all that matters.

[Bingo]

Agreed ... the game winner doesn't happen without Tkachuk in front of the net.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Guessing Sutter is pretty happy with Tkachuk's line last night.

They didn't get a lot done on the score board (0-0), but they were air tight which I think is the reason they didn't play down the stretch on Saturday night.

I still think he's fighting it ... confidence? But at least his line has been pretty good of late. Dube and Tkachuk were 4th-5th in xGF% last night at 77%. (6-1 in high danger splits).

Kylington ... would like to see more of that clip where he catches Byron. Why was he so deep in the first place?

But yeah bobbled the puck a bit, but he has to be rusty. Deserves more games with that effort.

Just watched it - it was a really bad decision for him (one of the few last night) where he was in from the blueline, even though the play was on the other side. So when the Habs turned it over, Byron was 20 feet behind him. I give him full marks for busting his ass and utilizing that speed, but the only reason he caught him was because Byron didn't take the pass cleanly.

Fantastic play to know it off Byron's stick without taking a penalty though.

[D as in David]

It has appeared to me for some time that Andersson really seems to struggle with bringing the puck up on the PP. I'm not sure why, but he struggles to be able to get the puck back to the trailing forward, highlighted by the give-away during that one power play. It also seemed that Giordano joined PP#1 earlier on at least two of the power plays while the rest of the #1 line was still out there.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by D as in David

It has appeared to me for some time that Andersson really seems to struggle with bringing the puck up on the PP. I'm not sure why, but he struggles to be able to get the puck back to the trailing forward, highlighted by the give-away during that one power play. It also seemed that Giordano joined PP#1 earlier on at least two of the power plays while the rest of the #1 line was still out there.

Agreed. I don't mind him on the PP once they are set up, but he has really struggled moving the puck up ice. Not sure who else should be there though.

[Bingo]

^ it's only been two games and five minutes for Andersson since Sutter changed the bump back option.

Probably takes time.

[getoverit]

wonder if we put Tkachuk back on the Backland line to get him going, they worked well together?

Originally Posted by Bingo

Guessing Sutter is pretty happy with Tkachuk's line last night.

They didn't get a lot done on the score board (0-0), but they were air tight which I think is the reason they didn't play down the stretch on Saturday night.

I still think he's fighting it ... confidence? But at least his line has been pretty good of late. Dube and Tkachuk were 4th-5th in xGF% last night at 77%. (6-1 in high danger splits).

Kylington ... would like to see more of that clip where he catches Byron. Why was he so deep in the first place?

But yeah bobbled the puck a bit, but he has to be rusty. Deserves more games with that effort.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Bingo

^ it's only been two games and five minutes for Andersson since Sutter changed the bump back option.

Probably takes time.

In my mind, this has been going on all year, for the most part and not just since Sutter came on. I do hope that he will get better at it with it because, like Enoch Root posted, I do like him once the puck is in the O-zone.

Just to be clear, I'm not putting all the blame on Andersson for poor entries.