11-04-2021, 01:09 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cowtown
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Negativity safe space! let it out here ONLY
The sky is falling and Flames will now fall apart due to this massive miss by Treliving and on top of that the stupid Flames recommended I sign up for PortPass and I did!!!!
What a horrible way to wake up. Went to bed believing it was really happening and got a surprise kick in the crotch for a wake up.
Vent here and no one is allowed to use your Flames related comments against you in another thread. Try out your post here for reaction before you post in another thread. Please erase if stupid idea.
I'm so f*****g angry that I let myself get goaded into caring so much about a stupid trade and that Treliving couldn't beat that freaking final cost. This has to be an NHL conspiracy trying to line up Vegas vs Mcjesus. Can't have both in Canada, and Edmonton has used up all of the NHL's "keep hockey alive in Canada" lifelines leaving none for us.
The only reason I wanted this trade to go down is so I wouldn't have to hear so much about the delusional team up North and the golden child that landed on their lap due to massive incompetence. I hate the freaking OILERS!!
Now I've got oiler fans texting me non stop and I blame Treliving. If I get another text from a delusional sweatpant wearing redneck, I will explode. The only saving grace is that those idiots wont answer my texts in March when they are out of the playoffs.
Now what? The Players gotta go out and play like nothing happened and all is normal and are fully motivated to perform 100% for their pay-check because we know hockey players are professional and never sulk and always play up to and exceed the level of their play when it has been publicly rumoured that they are on the block and then we get people join our forum to push their website and then give out false rumours to generate clicks, then they claim to be verified insiders like the ones on twitter like Weekes spewing lies or releasing false info that is damaging for one of the trading partners position going forward and now leaves the team locker room on a knife edge that should they fail to perform and win tonight could set the tone for the remainder of the season but not only that we lost a player to injury who somehow is vital to the line up but is not the guy that should be there yet he is because he is a non-factor in all ways including getting beat up handily and then injured by some other scrub yet his loss is going to hurt us because now we have to plug in another retread that is probably not going to hurt us but will eat up valuable minutes without really producing any results minus the occasional interference call because they no longer have the ability to keep up with the play but that is also somehow okay because he brings other intangibles to the dressing room meantime this Calgary core will soon return to their norm which is at best mediocre especially with Monahan playing like the ghost of Rob Niedermayer and Chucky who I think can't stop looking at himself in the mirror while he plays and only thinks of himself and not the team but regardless stupid Tree didn't sign him to a good contract now he has $9M qualifying offer with an unsigned Johnny on the sideline who has been carrying this team on his back for three years yet he lets our captain go for nothing while signing two of the worst defencemen in the NHL as per fancy statistics and the same time possibly handcuffing himself by signing one of them to the dumbest contract which in the end ate up valuable cap space which would have allowed him to make a better offer for Eichel who we will now have to face and deal with in our own division and yet we have no answer for him or Mcjesus on our team or in the visible near future due to the stupidity and performance of Sir Treliving the fearful.
Thank you for letting me vent today. I feel better and I will try to have a positive outlook from this point
Please delete thread if deemed stupid.
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11-04-2021, 01:12 PM
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If your team is 6-1-2 and you're feeling negative you need to look at finding a different hobby. This ain't it.
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11-04-2021, 01:12 PM
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Franchise Player
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I foresee Johnny walking away, Tkachuk walking at UFA and we are left holding the bag because we didn't up the ante for Eichel. Good thing we got Hamonic though, then promptly missed the ####ing playoffs.
We battle for 8th for the next 8 years and we don't see a Cup in our lifetimes.
####ing Flames.
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11-04-2021, 01:13 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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I love this thread already. I don't have anything negative to add, but I'm going to enjoy reading all of this.
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11-04-2021, 01:15 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
If your team is 6-1-2 and you're feeling negative you need to look at finding a different hobby. This ain't it.
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Dude I swear you have got to be Treliving or a family member. you might be in the wrong thread defending him
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11-04-2021, 01:15 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Vegas is the popular kid in highschool that picked on everyone. You swear their best years are going to be behind them once they graduate but then they just keep getting things handed to them and now they are vastly more successful than you, has a hotter wife, and you take the subway everyday and eat KD twice a week.
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11-04-2021, 01:19 PM
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Don't Treliving and co know this is an entertainment business?
If you aren't making quarterly blockbuster trades get out of my town!
Instead we get a 93 year old rancher coaching us to boring, systems-driven winning hockey. Just awful.
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11-04-2021, 01:20 PM
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Safe spaces are for losers
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11-04-2021, 01:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Ya'll are ####ing losers.
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It's a negative comment so it follows the negativity theme, but it defies the safe space rule. I'll allow it.
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11-04-2021, 01:30 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Safe spaces are for losers
Ya'll are ####ing losers.
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Thats the spirit! You crochety old guys get it!
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11-04-2021, 01:32 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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I hate pants. Ban pants.
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11-04-2021, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Ya'll are ####ing losers.
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Hey, safe space bro.
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11-04-2021, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by klikitiklik
Dude I swear you have got to be Treliving or a family member. you might be in the wrong thread defending him
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Lol yeah my posting history suggests I'm a huge fan of Treliving.
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11-04-2021, 01:42 PM
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#15
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I'm super disappointed that we didn't get Eichel, but at the same time, I did enjoy the inevitable over the top meltdowns by some posters on CP, so I guess there's that.
Either way, I am glad the saga has come to a close, and we can focus on the Flames on ice performance now. Still optimistic of the season and Sutter behind the bench.
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11-04-2021, 01:51 PM
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Go s### off a lamp, nerd.
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11-04-2021, 01:52 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I actually love this thread haha, I had all these thoughts ruminating in my head and now a place to vent (hopefully safely lol). This may be a bit long...
For me, it's not just a miss on Eichel because a rational person would say it's a bit of a gamble no matter how you slice it. But, this inability to make change or to do anything with a semblance of purpose or direction is what bothers me. Now, I'm not saying that there is no purpose (that's obviously to win), but that the way this organization has gone about it over decades is either too late, too lateral, too patchwork and the result is what we've seen over 30 years: mediocrity.
I moved to Calgary in 1990 (just missing the cup the previous year or so - even if I was very young then) and fell in love with hockey and the Flames were and have been my team since. It has not been a kind 3 decades as a fan.
From our good teams in the 90s but never making it past the 1st round (I still remember hearing Bure's OT goal that one year on my battery powered radio) to the "Young Guns" era, to having the pleasure at seeing Iggy play (and ultimately getting to be at his retirement ceremony) but not have much team success, to the Treliving era, mediocre, "ho-hum," same old, hopeless would be some words to describe how I think looking back. There were certainly bright spots interspersed but they were never truly planned in any sense of the word. It almost feels like we "luck" into any success we have.
I was a bit too young in the 90s to truly know what needed to change for more success, but looking back at the other times, the Young guns era was awful. Bad hockey, lack of playoff hockey, it was not a good time... and yet, even then we seemed to have no identity or plan moving forward. We were never good enough to make the playoffs, but never bad enough to pick high. When we did pick, it wasn't great. We kept icing this semi-competitive team and all those years just seemed to be a big waste. We did trade away Savard and St. Louis which certainly didn't come back to bite us.
Then, came 2004. What a run, what a time, first playoff hockey in forever, game 7 of the finals (we won in 6!). I'm not ashamed to say I shed some tears after losing that one, I was in the dome and felt numb walking out. But, looking back at it, it was a fluke run, a cinderella run and clearly one we have not been able to replicate since then. From there it was more years of mediocre, not being able to get Iggy a true center, relying on Kipper to be competitive and nothing to show for it. Then Dion gets traded (in hindsight, not a bad move as this was perhaps one of the only times I remember trading high) for spare parts (though Stajan did give us one of the most memorable moments when he scored that goal after he lost his child), Kipper retires and Iggy gets traded.
Now we're into the Treliving era, one where there has been movement all the time and yet, we're still mediocre in every way. The bright spots mainly have been through drafting and I give credit to our scouts for finding gems, but the overall vision just seems to be lacking, or at least, a few steps behind. We had a window, Johnny coming in, Monahan playing the way he did, Lindholm and Hanifin and before that Hamilton... squandered on patchwork goaltending. Highest pick ever in Bennett! Markstrom! Squandered on mediocre coaching.
Now, the identity seems to rest squarely with Sutter and his brand of hockey. But again, this feels 2 years too late. He has a 3 year contract in the midst of mediocre hockey and complicated contract negotiations. Maybe it would have been a good time to rebuild or retool but that's not going to happen with Sutter, he wants to win, but can we?
Throughout all this, it just feels to me like the vision or direction is either unclear, or too late, or just lacking completely. I think it just felt like a whole vision/direction was resting on this potential trade. Eichel meant going for it, gunning to keep Gaudreau, perhaps keeping Tkachuk or trading him for assets that can help now and later, all while Sutter is here and Markstrom is in net. Now? Not only is the team basically the same, the overall vision/direction seems to be as well.
The sad part is, I'm not sure how/when this changes but certainly having a true star player to build a team around, build a vision around is one way, and it feels like we missed that.
Man, it feels good to get that off my chest. I doubt anyone will read the whole thing or any of it but I needed that. Cathartic. Thanks for this thread!
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11-04-2021, 01:53 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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I’m not buying another goddam ticket to watch the flames. Of course I don’t live there so wasn’t going to buy one anyway. But I’m mad!
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11-04-2021, 01:59 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I was reading all the excitement for the potential trade last night and I kept thinking that it actually looked like quite a bad idea so I hope its "safe" to post my "negativity" for the deal for which Monty Python would say.... ... and then - suddenly - nothing happenned
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