02-08-2020, 06:55 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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IOC and IIHF make big Olympic concessions
per HNIC:
IOC and IIHF have made concessions to address the NHL and NHLPA's concerns on insurance, travel, and marketing rights for games on leagues own platforms
NHL made it clear that they want to tie Olympic participation to CBA negotiations.
PA doesn't think it should be tied with the CBA
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02-08-2020, 10:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
per HNIC:
IOC and IIHF have made concessions to address the NHL and NHLPA's concerns on insurance, travel, and marketing rights for games on leagues own platforms
NHL made it clear that they want to tie Olympic participation to CBA negotiations.
PA doesn't think it should be tied with the CBA
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But where is the CASH for the NHL? Notice the IOC and IIHF aren't offering up money to the star attractions? They really seem to have trouble marketing the games to cities without the NHL participation and all these items are fluff without money for the owners.
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02-08-2020, 10:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
But where is the CASH for the NHL? Notice the IOC and IIHF aren't offering up money to the star attractions? They really seem to have trouble marketing the games to cities without the NHL participation and all these items are fluff without money for the owners.
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I think Olympic marketing rights are worth huge amounts of money, no?
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02-08-2020, 11:14 PM
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IOC generates so much money from the Olympics. For winter olympics the marquee sport is hockey (arguably), so I think they should be paid considering the ridiculous money the IOC gets. The NHL knows what they're doing - the IOC is anything but a charity and the NHL knows that and they want a piece of that pie for their share of the sacrifice. Bettman is right.
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02-08-2020, 11:22 PM
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I still think the World Junior kids should play in the Olympics
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02-08-2020, 11:23 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I think Olympic marketing rights are worth huge amounts of money, no?
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to the IOC, but the NHL is supplying the entertainment, shutting down their own league at a key time and getting nothing for it. Pay the money and then the NHL Board of Governors will say alright, until then forget it. As an owner what would your opinion be if your best player got injured and was done for the season, like Tavares in the last NHL Olympics?
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02-08-2020, 11:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fleury
IOC generates so much money from the Olympics. For winter olympics the marquee sport is hockey (arguably), so I think they should be paid considering the ridiculous money the IOC gets. The NHL knows what they're doing - the IOC is anything but a charity and the NHL knows that and they want a piece of that pie for their share of the sacrifice. Bettman is right.
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Of course he is, and I don't expect the NHL to settle on just these concessions. But this is a HUGE offer from the IOC
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02-08-2020, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beatle17
to the IOC, but the NHL is supplying the entertainment, shutting down their own league at a key time and getting nothing for it. Pay the money and then the NHL Board of Governors will say alright, until then forget it. As an owner what would your opinion be if your best player got injured and was done for the season, like Tavares in the last NHL Olympics?
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You are missing my point, which is that this offer is not nothing.
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02-08-2020, 11:27 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Of course he is, and I don't expect the NHL to settle on just these concessions. But this is a HUGE offer from the IOC
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But it really isn't as they pay all this for every other athlete at the games. They always wanted the NHL players for marketing but wanted the NHL to pay for everything. It is a good beginning offer but will be rejected by the owners.
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02-08-2020, 11:52 PM
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I understand it’s a business and you gotta take care of yourself first but is it really that hard for the NHL to have a two week break every four years?
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02-09-2020, 02:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fleury
IOC generates so much money from the Olympics. For winter olympics the marquee sport is hockey (arguably), so I think they should be paid considering the ridiculous money the IOC gets. The NHL knows what they're doing - the IOC is anything but a charity and the NHL knows that and they want a piece of that pie for their share of the sacrifice. Bettman is right.
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Doesn't matter who us right.
For the IOC making concessions for hockey is a risk, because if the let the NHL in on the
profits, there's a hundred other sports asking "what about me".
If it was just about hockey, it would have been done already.
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02-09-2020, 02:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Doesn't matter who us right.
For the IOC making concessions for hockey is a risk, because if the let the NHL in on the
profits, there's a hundred other sports asking "what about me".
If it was just about hockey, it would have been done already.
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The only other major league I can think of that has players attend the Olympics, is the NBA. The difference, between the two is the scheduling concession the NHL must accommodate vs the NBA.
To add fuel to the NHL’s momentum are the changes to IOC rule 40.
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02-09-2020, 08:47 AM
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NOT breaking news
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
I understand it’s a business and you gotta take care of yourself first but is it really that hard for the NHL to have a two week break every four years?
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It's hard. Especially in February when nothing is going on in the southern markets. It's such a big deal no other sport does this.
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02-09-2020, 09:08 AM
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I'm curious how good NHL viewership numbers were during the 2018 winter olympics? I imagine those numbers are closely guarded.
TV deals likely factor into this, too. Does NBC want to show NHL during the Olympics? Rogers may be fine with it, though they probably do just as well in their limited role in the olympic consortium...
Seems like yet another good argument for a 76 game season...
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02-09-2020, 09:17 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I think Olympic marketing rights are worth huge amounts of money, no?
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Maybe... but the IOC owns all and controls all of the video material. That’s why you rarely see Crosby’s goal from 10 years ago.
The marketing rights are worth a huge amount of money for the IOC, not the NHL until the NHL is an actual partner and not just taken for granted.
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02-09-2020, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
Doesn't matter who us right.
For the IOC making concessions for hockey is a risk, because if the let the NHL in on the
profits, there's a hundred other sports asking "what about me".
If it was just about hockey, it would have been done already.
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The problem kids that the other sports don’t carry the same marketing heft. Figure skating maybe comes closest but even there, you are dealing with a tiny number of athletes who are not breaking up their normal season. To sports like that or curling, or skiing, this is just a tournament they have to fit into their schedule.
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02-09-2020, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
PA doesn't think it should be tied with the CBA
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Um...what? Why?
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02-09-2020, 09:23 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Um...what? Why?
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Because the PA already extended the current CBA which will still be in place when the 2022 Olympics take place.
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02-09-2020, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
I understand it’s a business and you gotta take care of yourself first but is it really that hard for the NHL to have a two week break every four years?
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Why would they if they don't majorly profit from it? Not to mention the risk to players health. The NHL is a business, not hard to understand why they oppose things the way they currently are.
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02-09-2020, 09:53 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Because the PA already extended the current CBA which will still be in place when the 2022 Olympics take place.
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Didn't the PA have the opportunity to get this concession in exchange for the extension? Or was it for an extension beyond 2022?
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