02-02-2019, 06:53 PM
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#1
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Kypreos: Flames 1st round pick is in play
as said on HNIC, but wouldn't give any further details
edit:
Keep in mind that in the last few weeks both Treliving and Conroy have said they aren't interested in trading the 1st for a rental
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02-02-2019, 06:54 PM
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#2
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Lifetime Suspension
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Location: victoria
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02-02-2019, 06:54 PM
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#3
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
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Kypreos: Flames 1st round pick is in play
It wouldn’t surprise me but it’s Kypreos
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02-02-2019, 06:55 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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As it should be. A late 1st is likely going to be a player with upside of a middle six forward or 2nd/3rd pairing D-men. If the Flames can get a guy that they can keep for a while that is a middle six forward, then that'd be a good upgrade.
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02-02-2019, 06:56 PM
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#5
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Draft Pick
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One Mark Stone please
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02-02-2019, 06:56 PM
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#6
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First round-bust
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No surprise. Hope it's one of the Ottawa guys or someone with term
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02-02-2019, 06:57 PM
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#8
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Josh Anderson
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02-02-2019, 06:58 PM
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#9
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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You never know when you'll have the opportunity to win a cup. Gaudreau or frankly any of the key players could get hurt or regress significantly next year. It can happen.
Why not go for it now and make sure it's something that you can have for later.
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02-02-2019, 07:00 PM
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#10
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Southern Sweden
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If it's for an upgrade that matters, with some term, I don't mind it. That's what you'd hope for with a first rounder anyway. Our players have value, we can deal cap for picks later if we need to.
Just be smart about it.
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02-02-2019, 07:02 PM
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#11
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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It seemed to me that he was just throwing out names.
He said “teams we think have their 1st rounder in play”. Kind of a throwaway comment. He wouldn’t even say he’d heard and instead said we and named 3 teams, one of which was Calgary.
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02-02-2019, 07:07 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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If we do give it up, I think it comes packaged with a cap dump or two that also lets us re-sign Tkachuk. Two birds with one Mike Stone.
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02-02-2019, 07:11 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
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Stone (extension signed)
Anderson
For
Calgary 1st
2020 2nd
Andersson (to get Stone’s brother his spot?)
Posposil
Frolik
Smith
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02-02-2019, 07:11 PM
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#14
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
as said on HNIC, but wouldn't give any further details
edit:
Keep in mind that in the last few weeks both Treliving and Conroy have said they aren't interested in trading the 1st for a rental
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If the team is capable of making a run, that 1st becomes much easier to lose, especially for the right piece.
Even better if it's a player we can keep, whether they are already signed or if we can re-sign them.
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02-02-2019, 07:16 PM
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#15
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
Stone (extension signed)
Anderson
For
Calgary 1st
2020 2nd
Andersson (to get Stone’s brother his spot?)
Posposil
Frolik
Smith
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I have never seen a sign in trade in the NHL and as soon as you said Andersson I was out.
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02-02-2019, 07:16 PM
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#16
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I have never seen a sign in trade in the NHL and as soon as you said Andersson I was out.
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Kylington?
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02-02-2019, 07:18 PM
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#17
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
Stone (extension signed)
Anderson
For
Calgary 1st
2020 2nd
Andersson (to get Stone’s brother his spot?)
Posposil
Frolik
Smith
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You know Stone is probably asking for 9 or 10. Anderson makes nearly 5 and has a year left on his deal
So you want to add about 14 to close to 15 in payroll next year
and subtracting Frolik from next year at 4.3 million>
So we're up 10 million? We'd have roughly 3 million in cap space left and still need to sign MT and Dave and Bennett?
How does that work?
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02-02-2019, 07:19 PM
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, cap wise, Anderson wouldn’t work. Thought he was expiring Boourns.
If pure rental for Stone
Stone
For
Calgary 1st
Dube
?
Don’t know the prices for rentals this year.
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02-02-2019, 07:20 PM
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#19
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I have never seen a sign in trade in the NHL and as soon as you said Andersson I was out.
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It's not a trade that makes sense for Calgary under the cap and for that reason I too am out, but 1st + Andersson would be a perfectly valid payment for Stone under contract. Andersson's poor underlying numbers suggest he's not exactly a future top pairing guy.
It's just that we can't afford Stone under contract without sending both Neal and Frolik the other way and even then we need to re-sign Bennett, Tkachuk, Rittich, and a backup goalie this offseason. Stone's a pipe dream.
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02-02-2019, 07:23 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Andersson is, what, 22? I'd not be exactly keen to deal him. Many a great defender has put up less-than-excellent underlying numbers at his age, and the Flames' organizational RD depth is absolutely terrible as it is.
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