An inside look at the Arizona Coyotes' draft experience
Strongly recommend this video. It's honestly fascinating. I just love this sort of stuff.
The Coyotes are quickly becoming one of my favourite teams. Also loved this line from Chayka at about 11:00:
"Pierre LeBrun wants to know if I'm trading you my pick, so that you can play the Tkachuk brothers together. He says that's your guy, you've got a target on him."
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Interesting. It makes it seem like there might have been a deal to be had if Tkachuk had still been on the board when their pick came up. If so, you'd have to think that Dougie would have been going to the Yotes.
It's weird to think about how everything else would have played out then.
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RE: the NHL draft lottery; "If I was just sitting here waiting to get lucky, then I wouldn't be the GM of an NHL team."
the above quote should come with an asterisk.
*Edmonton Oilers excluded
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Love these videos... I wish each team produced them, annually
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Yeah, Gagner's line was -4 and Kessel's was +4, so it all evened out.
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Interesting. It makes it seem like there might have been a deal to be had if Tkachuk had still been on the board when their pick came up. If so, you'd have to think that Dougie would have been going to the Yotes.
It's weird to think about how everything else would have played out then.
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"Pierre LeBrun wants to know if I'm trading you my pick, so that you can play the Tkachuk brothers together. He says that's your guy, you've got a target on him."
I took it as Chayka trying to bait Treliving using LeBrun! Maybe he doesn't know it but we all know by now no media member ever gets a scoop on Trelivings deals in place.
As for the proposed trade, Brady might turn out ok or maybe even great but at the draft he wasn't worth Hamilton, not even close.
Chayka seems like a guy that is a nervous talker. Young guy that doesn't feel like he's part of the club maybe, but he has that problem where he says a lot without saying anything (like the flesching call) then follows up with nervous laughs. That's a guy that is bright but could benefit from a senior president of hockey ops as sounding board.
His call to "botts" about Flesching. That was the trade involving Brandon Hickey to buffalo...and he says a couple players were "boxed out". Is he trying to say he didn't have room for Hickey on the roster? Pretty sure Hickey wasn't going to sign there.
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So without watching the video does Chayka have his paints up around his nipples and a 10 monitor computer with a dozen spreadsheet? and a copy of NHL 2018 running so he can evaluate trade offers.
Because hes realistically been nothing but a major disappointment who has done nothing for the Coyotes but make then a numerically superior bottom dweller.
with the Glavens and the oignens
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The first one of those teams is a cellar-dweller. The second one is a possible playoff team with terrific depth, and that's not just on paper. They were much improved down the stretch last year and I can definitely see that improving still.
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The most impressive part about the Coyotes rebuild is that they have been able to do it without the luck that other teams have had with regards to drafting the easy picks (McDavid, Eichel, Matthews, Dahlin). He has made some good trades of aging assets to collect draft picks. I don't think that they are a playoff team yet as they still need some extra offense from the forwards but they are going in the right direction.
The stretch comment really means nothing to me, we've seen examples of teams going into the stretch and the pressure comes off and they explode like a rocket.
Since he came on board, the Coyotes have never finished over 80 points, and the expectation this year is that they'll be out of the playoffs again.
So on paper means very little, at the end of the day, he hasn't gotten any results and the team went from 78 points when he joined to 70 points.
All he seems to do is reshuffle deck chairs on the titanic.
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Yeah he deserves some credit at least. Plus looking on cap friendly, their cap hit right now is $69 million which includes over $10 million of dead money for Hossa and Bolland.
Imagine if the Flames had an internal budget of $60 million for player salaries.
I dunno, Cap. I think his deal with the Rangers to acquire both Stepan and Raanta in one feel swoop was very shrewd, giving the Coyotes a true 1C and a great goalie for a bunch of unknowns. His swap of Domi and Galchenyuk was a clear upgrade. His swap of Duclair and Panik was a clear upgrade, and he even got a prospect back in that deal too. That defense is also vastly upgraded. Nik Hjalmarsson on the second pairing? He somehow managed to snag Demers for Jamie McGinn. There's so much to like there.
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He has also only been there two years. Judging him purely on the standings is a little rough considering those results are based more on the team that he inherited.
I am no huge fan but that must be the hardest GM job in the NHL.
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He's moved a lot of parts around but none of them have amounted to anything. Shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic comes to mind.
Also he got Stepan & Raanta for a 2017 1st rounder. That felt steep to me. Also seems like his biggest moves are the ones where he takes on cap space. Feels like the Coyotes are more of a bank than a team at times.
He has also only been there two years. Judging him purely on the standings is a little rough considering those results are based more on the team that he inherited.
I am no huge fan but that must be the hardest GM job in the NHL.
I think that building a winner on a budget would be extremely difficult (i.e. hardest job in the NHL), but that doesn't really apply yet. They are in a total tear-down rebuild, so he hasn't really been constrained by budgets yet.
And again, I think rebuilds are easy: "look... we're younger and we drafted some promising kids."
Well yeah, but turning them into a competitive team is a different ballgame. See Edmonton, Buffalo, etc.
Even with Calgary, we're now seeing how difficult that next phase is. Drafting Tkachuks is easy (and is largely determinant on luck), but even once you get a Gaudreau and a Monahan and a Tkachuk - or a MCDavid - you still have to build a team around them. Much more difficult.
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I strongly disagree. We are talking about the same Coyotes team that finished last in the west this year, right? The team that has gotten worse each year since he became GM, right?
I guess give him credit for drafting Keller. Would have been a disaster if he drafted A. Nylander instead, but really Mckenzie had Keller 8th overall, the Coyotes selected him 7th overall. Not exactly going off the board there.
Stepan trade, in a vacuum, may not have been too bad value wise but has to be considered an absolute massive loss for the Coyotes. DeAngelo is still up in the air as to what he'll become but likely depth player, however, that first round pick would have easily been in the lottery territory without Raanta. So giving up on a chance to draft Hischier, Patrick, Pettersson etc.. Those are players that could have been built around, instead they got a couple ~30 year olds for a couple years. And they've wasted them so far finishing at the bottom of the league.
Panik trade, not bad, but having him on the top line is not a good sign.
Perlini was drafted before he became a GM. As was the entirety of the third line. Can't give him really any credit there, even if you thought those lines were notable.
Galchenyuk, a 50 point player, was acquired through Domi, a 50 point player. We'll have to see who actually wins this trade, but he's not able to make it at all without his predecessor drafting Domi. So can't give him much credit here unless Galchenyuk explodes offensively.
A NTC to Grabner who sucked with the Devils could easily come back to haunt them, will need to wait on that.
The defense you actually do have to give him quite a bit of credit for the players themselves. Of course getting OEL to sign is huge, even if maybe a different GM would have been able to sign him anyways. Hjalmarsson and Demers trades were good in terms of on-ice contributions and of course having Chychrun drop to his lap has paid early dividends. But that's an expensive blueline. By next season that is going to cost them close to 30M. Take a look at that blueline, that easily could be the highest paid blueline in the league next year, (on a budget team) and try to argue it's one of the best. You can't. It's not anywhere close. And Hjalmarsson, Demers, Goligoski also have NTC to boot.
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