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Bingo · 10-25-2017, 01:05 AM

https://www.calgarypuck.com/2017/10/...dators-2-so-2/

- Jankowski looks great
- Bennett is back!
- Smith a stud again in net
- Tkachuk is going to be a star

Yrebmi · 10-25-2017, 01:26 AM

Nice write up.
I thought the Flames were the better team by a fair margin, but difficult to say as with the early 2 goal lead Nashville wasn't pushing. Lines should have Frolik not Jagr.

playmaker · 10-25-2017, 02:20 AM

Good write-up as usual, thanks. One correction though ...

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A few minutes later Johnny Gaudreau found a streaking Micheal Ferland who gets off the snide to score his first of the season and tie things up.

It was Ferland's second goal of the season.

St. Pats · 10-25-2017, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Yrebmi

Nice write up.
I thought the Flames were the better team by a fair margin, but difficult to say as with the early 2 goal lead Nashville wasn't pushing. Lines should have Frolik not Jagr.

I thought goaltending saved them yet again. Could so easily have been 3-0. Nashville as they always seem to do were very content to sit back with a lead. Still until the third the chances were pretty even. in the third Flames came on for sure.

I like the comment if you throw out the lack of discipline ... in the article. Yeah wouldn't it be sweet if you could throw out the things a team consistently does wrong.

I had higher hopes for the team this season. So far only goaltending is living up to those hopes.

gunnner · 10-25-2017, 04:17 AM

Great write up as always.

I like Hrudey but he gets the heel for being flabbergasted by Rinne twice stopping the icings. You let it be icing, it’s a 50/50 you get possession when play resumes. You come out of the crease and play it, its 100% chance you have possession. Its not hard to carry the puck up the ice in 3 on 3, keeping the possession is the key to teams ot strategies now. Smith did the same thing 2 minutes later.

FireGilbert · 10-25-2017, 06:43 AM

Good read as always.

Jankowski is starting to look like a better pick than Olli Matta but the player the Flames should have taken instead is Vasilevskiy

Erick Estrada · 10-25-2017, 06:53 AM

Another whipping boy in Brouwer has been pretty good outside of the first few games of the season.

icecube · 10-25-2017, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Good read as always.

Jankowski is starting to look like a better pick than Olli Matta but the player the Flames should have taken instead is Vasilevskiy

Maatta is right near the top of defenseman scoring leaders this year and his ice time has risen to over 20 mins a game.

kukkudo · 10-25-2017, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Good read as always.

Jankowski is starting to look like a better pick than Olli Matta but the player the Flames should have taken instead is Vasilevskiy

Green Text?

FireGilbert · 10-25-2017, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by icecube

Maatta is right near the top of defenseman scoring leaders this year and his ice time has risen to over 20 mins a game.

Maatta is off to a great start but he struggled last season and can be inconsistent. He is also a lefty and would be behind Giordano and Brodie on the depth chart. It's a close call but I'd rather have a potential 3rd line centre in Jankowski over a 3rd pairing Dman.

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Green Text?

Not at all. Vasilevskiy is looking like a star. With the benefit of hindsight the only move better than taking Jankowski would have been to not trade down and take the goalie. It's funny though because there likely would have been even more uproar drafting a Russian goal tender.

Hot_Flatus · 10-25-2017, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Another whipping boy in Brouwer has been pretty good outside of the first few games of the season.

He has 2 assists through 9 games and a whopping 9 shots on goal all while being fed prime power-play minutes (5:24 last night!).

This is not good at all, he was brought in to score some goals and I'd wager a player like Tkachuk would be doing much more with those minutes than Brouwer would be. It's perplexing the staff is not willing to give Matthew more offensive minutes when he's clearly showing he's ready for it.

Nonetheless, that was probably the best effort in a while and the third line looked like a much more competent unit with Jankowski centering.

Enoch Root · 10-25-2017, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Pats

I thought goaltending saved them yet again. Could so easily have been 3-0. Nashville as they always seem to do were very content to sit back with a lead. Still until the third the chances were pretty even. in the third Flames came on for sure.

I like the comment if you throw out the lack of discipline ... in the article. Yeah wouldn't it be sweet if you could throw out the things a team consistently does wrong.

I had higher hopes for the team this season. So far only goaltending is living up to those hopes.

This commentary is so one-sided.

Sure, Smith was great, and it could have been 3-0. But also, Rinne was great, and it could have been 3-3 (when it was still 2-0).

The Flames were the better team last night. That has not happened very often yet this season (3 times, IMO), but when it does happen, let's give credit where it is due.

dino7c · 10-25-2017, 08:35 AM

The Flames had far more scoring chances...Smith certainly didn't steal this game. Discipline was fine.

Preds almost won the cup last year and were unbeaten at home. If you can't enjoy that one I think it's time for a new hobby.

St. Pats · 10-25-2017, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

This commentary is so one-sided.

Sure, Smith was great, and it could have been 3-0. But also, Rinne was great, and it could have been 3-3 (when it was still 2-0).

The Flames were the better team last night. That has not happened very often yet this season (3 times, IMO), but when it does happen, let's give credit where it is due.

The credit is right where it belongs / the guy between the pipes is the teams MVP night after night. Only reason they comeback is he held them in there. The team gets credit for the comeback but Smith was the difference yet again. You don't want to give him the credit he deserves and that's fine / try imagining where the season including this game would be without his performance. He is carrying the team!

ricardodw · 10-25-2017, 09:05 AM

Really rolling everyone at even strength:

The 4th line being Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland and the 3rd pairing Gio-Hamilton. Hard to believe that this has happened ever before

MATTHEW TKACHUK MIKAEL BACKLUND MICHAEL FROLIK 23.28%
SAM BENNETT CURTIS LAZAR MARK JANKOWSKI 19.4%
TROY BROUWER MATT STAJAN KRIS VERSTEEG 17.24%
MICHEAL FERLAND SEAN MONAHAN JOHNNY GAUDREAU 16.81%
MICHEAL FERLAND CURTIS LAZAR MARK JANKOWSKI 4.31%
JOHNNY GAUDREAU MATT STAJAN TROY BROUWER 2.16%
MATTHEW TKACHUK MIKAEL BACKLUND SAM BENNETT 1.72%
MICHEAL FERLAND MARK JANKOWSKI MICHAEL FROLIK 1.72%
JOHNNY GAUDREAU SEAN MONAHAN TROY BROUWER 1.72%
MARK JANKOWSKI CURTIS LAZAR SEAN MONAHAN 1.72%

TJ BRODIE TRAVIS HAMONIC 34.48%
MICHAEL STONE BRETT KULAK 28.88%
MARK GIORDANO DOUGIE HAMILTON 25%
MARK GIORDANO MICHAEL STONE 5.6%
DOUGIE HAMILTON BRETT KULAK 3.02%
TJ BRODIE DOUGIE HAMILTON 1.29%
TJ BRODIE MICHAEL STONE 0.86%
MARK GIORDANO TRAVIS HAMONIC 0.43%
TRAVIS HAMONIC BRETT KULAK 0.43%

Enoch Root · 10-25-2017, 09:41 AM

ricardodw: you understand there is a thing called PP time right?

This is an example of people considering only a singular stat (5 on 5 ice-time in this case), and thus drawing a false conclusion.

After the PP unit is out there, the other lines have to go next, 5 on 5.

It isn't that hard to follow.

Finger Cookin · 10-25-2017, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Pats

The credit is right where it belongs / the guy between the pipes is the teams MVP night after night.
You don't want to give him the credit he deserves and that's fine / try imagining where the season including this game would be without his performance.

are these song lyrics

danny darko · 10-25-2017, 09:53 AM

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are these song lyrics

I actually lol'd

St. Pats · 10-25-2017, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

are these song lyrics

No if it was song lyrics it would look like this :

If there's a goal that everyone remembers

It was back in ol' 72

We all squeezed the stick and we all pulled the trigger

And all I remember is sitting beside you

ricardodw · 10-25-2017, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

ricardodw: you understand there is a thing called PP time right?

This is an example of people considering only a singular stat (5 on 5 ice-time in this case), and thus drawing a false conclusion.

After the PP unit is out there, the other lines have to go next, 5 on 5.

It isn't that hard to follow.

And yet Gaudreau leads the Flames forwards in Even Strength TOI over the season by quite a lot.

Over the season Hamilton-Gio get about 16.5 minutes of ES time a game

Stone 12 Bartkowski 11.5 and Kulak 11.5. Pretty self explanatory and why Stone/? is always refered to as the 3rd pairing.

This game was different in that the Flames were able to roll everyone. They stuck to their game plan and it worked.

Do you think that whatever line Stajan has centered doesn't get the 4th most even strength ice time on all other games???

It really is not that hard to follow.