08-30-2018, 10:45 AM
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BC government files lawsuit against Big Pharma
This pertains to the opioid crisis and how some of the major players marketed their drugs without disclosing the addiction risks. I'm really not sure how this turns out but should be somewhat interesting from a legal perspective.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...manufacturers/
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08-30-2018, 10:54 AM
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Crazy to go after big pharma, but completely turn a blind eye to cigarettes.
Anyways, the opioid crisis is a huge stain on modern medicine, and the corruption runs deep. A decent article on Purdue:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...empire-of-pain
No surprise Guiliani has his greasy fingers in this too, but I am surprised Hollywood hasn't made a movie about this yet - it has Oscar bait written all over it.
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08-30-2018, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NuclearFart
Crazy to go after big pharma, but completely turn a blind eye to cigarettes.
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Well the cigarette companies already got taken to task over the same thing a few decades ago, did they not? Eby is a smart dude and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was using the lawsuits against Big Tobacco as a template for this.
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08-30-2018, 10:58 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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I honestly don't see how a scattershot approach against 40 companies is likely to go anywhere. I'd guess that at some point, the BC government will be required to amend or split their complaint into something more manageable.
And NuclearFart - BC (like everyone else) is going after tobacco firms. There was a pretty big SCC decision last month that cleared one of the hurdles of their case.
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08-30-2018, 11:02 AM
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They were taken to task in civil tort law though, this a government going after private entities to recoup healthcare costs. With smoking related issues being the bane of healthcare for decades, the very same arguments could be made on a larger scale.
Perhaps you're right though, as lawyering is all about dat precedent.
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08-30-2018, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
And NuclearFart - BC (like everyone else) is going after tobacco firms. There was a pretty big SCC decision last month that cleared one of the hurdles of their case. |
This pleases me.
Insert grinning William Dafoe gif
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08-30-2018, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NuclearFart
Crazy to go after big pharma, but completely turn a blind eye to cigarettes.
Anyways, the opioid crisis is a huge stain on modern medicine, and the corruption runs deep. A decent article on Purdue:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...empire-of-pain
No surprise Guiliani has his greasy fingers in this too, but I am surprised Hollywood hasn't made a movie about this yet - it has Oscar bait written all over it. |
The BC government has been going after the tobacco companies since the late 90s:
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/h...cco-litigation
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08-30-2018, 11:21 AM
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When will a government ever go after Big Placebo for selling snake oil?
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08-30-2018, 11:32 AM
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Unfortunately BC is the epicenter of said Charlatans, so it won't be them.
You should take this one on Troutman. I imagine they have an immense war che$t and no shortage of groupies to sway perception though.
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08-30-2018, 11:37 AM
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Good.
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08-30-2018, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
When will a government ever go after Big Placebo for selling snake oil?
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08-30-2018, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
When will a government ever go after Big Placebo for selling snake oil?
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Think it'd be much harder to prove damages with that lot considering most of their #### doesn't do anything.
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08-30-2018, 11:52 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Think it'd be much harder to prove damages with that lot considering most of their #### doesn't do anything.
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Selling something that does not work - the damage is the cost of the product.
Then, all the costs to the system from people delaying or avoiding the most proven treatments.
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08-30-2018, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Think it'd be much harder to prove damages with that lot considering most of their #### doesn't do anything.
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Except for the stuff that does, but does it by using undeclared drugs....
https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recal...67602a-eng.php
Steroids!
Ephedrine!
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08-30-2018, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by troutman
Selling something that does not work - the damage is the cost of the product.
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You''re obviously more of a legal expert than I am, but wouldn't that be on the individual purchasing the product to pursue damages? I don't see the government can really involve itself there.
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Then, all the costs to the system from people delaying or avoiding the most proven treatments.
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Again, I see that as being pretty hard to prove. We have actual numbers related to opioid addiction.
I'm also interested in seeing if this paves the way for class-action suits against these companies.
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08-30-2018, 12:00 PM
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This should be interesting.
Who has more money for a prolonged legal battle? BC or Big Pharma?
Further, in order to sell their goods dont they have to be approved by the BC Government?
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08-30-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Further, in order to sell their goods dont they have to be approved by the BC Government?
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Pretty sure that's federal jurisdiction but I could be wrong.
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08-30-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Pretty sure that's federal jurisdiction but I could be wrong.
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Health Care? Typically Provincial, but maybe the approval of drugs would be Federally mandated?
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08-30-2018, 12:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Health Care? Typically Provincial, but maybe the approval of drugs would be Federally mandated?
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Yeah, distribution would fall under provincial but approval would come from the feds.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...ed-canada.html
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08-30-2018, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
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Is BC then going to have to add the Feds to the lawsuit for approving a dangerous drug? Or does it fall on BC for being the ones to prescribe it to a point where its become an epidemic?
I dont know, I'm going to have to follow this more closely because its complex. The Federal Government approved the drugs, the Provincial Government approved their use and distribution but they're suing the manufacturers because of the effects.....which both levels of Government should have known about before approving and prescribing.
Real guilt seems somewhat nebulous here.
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