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Old 12-04-2016, 11:51 PM   #1
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Default Kicked puck rebounds - loophole?

Alex Chiasson's goal poses an interesting question to me: if a goal is scored on the rebound of a kicked shot, should it count? Effectively, the goalie and his team are being punished for making the save. Is this something the NHL should be consider addressing, and how could they do so if they should?
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I don't think it's a loophole at all. It's no different than kicking the puck up to your skates, or bouncing it off the goalpost for a shot. If you have the skill (or luck) to do it, by all means you should.
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I feel like this happens so infrequently and it's never an issue when it happens. This isn't a loophole, so much as it's a loop-single-instance.
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That's a good question.

For what it worth, there is a similar play in soccer. If you score from an indirect free kick, it does not count. But if the goalie makes a save and you score on a rebound, it counts. Soccer is fine with that and is not going to change the rule.
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I've thought about this before too. If the spirit of the rule, as I always thought it was, is to avoid injuries from players thrusting their skate blades about in the crease, assists from kicked pucks should be just as illegal as goals from kicked pucks. I think it's one of those things that has just evolved beyond that spirit. We simply prefer not to see goals scored from the feet I guess.
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Old 12-05-2016, 06:15 AM   #7
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i support the whl view on all things kicked in
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:37 AM   #8
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It isn't an infraction to kick the puck. This isn't an issue.
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That should always be a good goal. It was poor defensive coverage that cause the goal not a direct result of the save from a kicked puck.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:44 AM   #10
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Bennett kicked the puck hard enough that Bernier was handcuffed. Honestly, the Flames deserved a goal for that alone.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:45 AM   #11
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Non issue. He didn't kick the puck in and that's all that matters.
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I think that the play should be whistled down anytime the puck touches a player's skate. However, should a successful review demonstrate that the puck did not actually hit a player's skate, then players should return to their spots at the time of the whistle in a "frozen" position. The linesman then places the puck and blows the whistle, but only when he determines that everyone on the ice is completely still.
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I think it would make things a lot easier if they just allowed kicked in goals.
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:01 AM   #14
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i have no problem with it.

It's like in baseball if the ball is on a trajectory to go foul but someone picks it up, then everything after that is fair game.

The other team (the goalie) touched puck and kept the play alive. Unfortunate, but it is what it is.

I agree that the intent is to prevent players from recklessly kicking at the goalie. If it starts getting to that point, maybe they will need to revisit the rule.
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I think that the play should be whistled down anytime the puck touches a player's skate. .
Seriously???
So if a forward makes an outstanding play by kicking the puck up from his skates to stick and scores, that should be blown down?? Did you see how many times Johnny used his skates to stick moves last night, all those should be whistled?
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Seriously???
Nope.
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I think that the play should be whistled down anytime the puck touches a player's skate. However, should a successful review demonstrate that the puck did not actually hit a player's skate, then players should return to their spots at the time of the whistle in a "frozen" position. The linesman then places the puck and blows the whistle, but only when he determines that everyone on the ice is completely still.
I'm glad I continued reading after that first sentence. Otherwise I would have sixpacked myself.
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I think it would make things a lot easier if they just allowed kicked in goals.
The issue (besides the danger of the skate blade) is that a player cannot defend easily against kicking feet, as you cannot use your stick to defend against it. If they allowed tripping, maybe they would allow kicking the puck in.

I think it is a bit of a silly argument.
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I remember seeing that play and thinking, "I wonder if Bernier wishes he just let that kicked puck go in" instead of making that awesome save on the kick, only to get burned on the rebound shot.
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Seriously???
So if a forward makes an outstanding play by kicking the puck up from his skates to stick and scores, that should be blown down?? Did you see how many times Johnny used his skates to stick moves last night, all those should be whistled?
This is a good example of why it's important to read the whole post first.
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