08-01-2016, 10:18 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Coyotes buy out Vermette's contract
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Something odd today. ARIZ has put Antoine Vermette on waivers for purpose of buyout.
very strange.
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08-01-2016, 10:21 AM
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Franchise Player
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That is odd. Serviceable player on pretty reasonable dollars with only 1 year left?
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08-01-2016, 10:22 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Maybe this is a budget related move to bring in a big salary via trade or free agency?
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08-01-2016, 10:25 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Also interesting is that Vermette has a NMC so he can opt not to be put on waivers before a buyout occurs. He obviously choose to be put on waivers.
Must be hoping someone will claim him.
Last edited by sureLoss; 08-01-2016 at 10:28 AM.
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08-01-2016, 10:26 AM
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Don't click that link!
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rural Alberta
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I'm surprised they couldn't find a taker for him and just took a portion of the salary back in a player or retained some salary?
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08-01-2016, 10:27 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Wat?!
I would take Vermette on my team over plenty of others (Stajan for just an example). I wonder where he lands.
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08-01-2016, 10:29 AM
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Jordan!
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
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This is pretty surprising.. has to be something else in the pipe
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08-01-2016, 10:31 AM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Is he behaving like Mike Ribiero?
Or his Hero chart was really awful this past year.
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08-01-2016, 10:31 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Without Vermette playing center, this is now their depth chart as far as I understand it.
Hanzal
White
Dauphin
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They must be assuming that guys like Strome and Dvorak will make the team out of camp and contribute right away. That's a pretty dangerous assumption to make for the center position. I honestly don't understand what they're doing here.
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08-01-2016, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Strome and or Dvorak are ready. Strome has the size and spent another year in junior. I find it tough to believe he is not on the team.
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08-01-2016, 10:49 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Some team will sign him then trade him for a first at trade deadline
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08-01-2016, 10:51 AM
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Also interesting is that Vermette has a NMC so he can opt not to be put on waivers before a buyout occurs. He obviously choose to be put on waivers.
Must be hoping someone will claim him.
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Why though? It is my understanding that if he is bought out he gets his salary. or a good % of it, and then can sign for less with a team of his choice?
With waivers, he is throwing away the NMC.
Or am I overselling his ability?
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08-01-2016, 10:57 AM
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How often is one move made as a set-up for another imminent move? Is it less than 100% of the time people are convinced a chain of dominoes is about to fall due to a minor move?
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08-01-2016, 11:00 AM
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Odd move indeed. The main thing i take out of this is, if there wasn't already enough signs that players like Stajan, Wideman, ect. couldnt be moved, then this is the cherry on top.
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08-01-2016, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Strome and or Dvorak are ready. Strome has the size and spent another year in junior. I find it tough to believe he is not on the team.
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Ryan MacInnis is also looking very good, I could see him jumping in as a 3C. Strome at 2C. Dvorak on the wing with spot minutes at centre.
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08-01-2016, 11:24 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Upstate NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow
This is pretty surprising.. has to be something else in the pipe
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It would have to be something huge (on the order of Strome + Smith <=> Malkin + Fleury).... Otherwise, why would they take on Datsyuk's salary only to buy out Vermette a few weeks later?
Weird.
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08-01-2016, 11:34 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kavvy
Why though? It is my understanding that if he is bought out he gets his salary. or a good % of it, and then can sign for less with a team of his choice?
With waivers, he is throwing away the NMC.
Or am I overselling his ability?
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First off he is extremely unlikely to be claimed off waivers. Teams know that it is for a buyout and know they can try to sign him to a lesser contract after the buyout is completed. He is just hoping against hope that a team will claim him so he doesn't lose money.
Vermette just lost $1.25 million dollars because of the buyout. He is also put in a bad negotiating position. Unlike if he was a free agent on July 1st, a lot of potential teams are out of the question, as they have already committed their cap dollars. There is a good chance that he signs for much less than the $1.25 million.
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08-01-2016, 11:40 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flame19,289
It would have to be something huge (on the order of Strome + Smith <=> Malkin + Fleury).... Otherwise, why would they take on Datsyuk's salary only to buy out Vermette a few weeks later?
Weird.
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They're not paying Datsyuk anything. All they took on was the cap hit (because it was a 35+ contract, the cap hit still counts even after he retired).
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08-01-2016, 11:43 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Making room for Hudler?
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08-01-2016, 11:47 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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