How would Monahan, Bennett, and Tkachuk rank in the same draft class?

[the-rasta-masta]

Just thought it would be an interesting topic considering they were all picked around the same spot in the draft in each of their respective years, all coming out of the OHL. If they were all the same age, how would they be ranked if they were up against one another? Obviously we have seen three seasons of Monahan in the NHL and one (and a playoff run) for Bennett, but lets put that aside and focus on what each player looked like at the time of their draft.

Clearly Tkachuk had the most impressive draft year stats, but how much of that was attributed to playing on the best line in the OHL? It's a sharp contrast to Monahan's draft year, playing on one of the worst teams with very little supporting cast. What I do find most impressive about Tkachuk was his playoffs this year, where he had 2/3 of his regular season goal production in just 18 games compared to 57 in the season.

When it comes to Bennett, he had the second best OHL draft season of the 3, and at some points in his draft year was actually touted with potential to go number 1. I believe that he was actually ranked #1 by Central Scouting going into the draft. What's interesting about Sam seems to be his ability to drive a line and bring that grit and skill, so to me he is probably the number one guy on my personal ranking of the three.

Given the increased value that centres seem to get in the league and draft, I'd have to say my rankings would likely be as follows:

1- Bennett
2- Monahan
3- Tkachuk

I will say I believe many might have a case to flip Monahan and Tkachuk considering their draft years. Where would you have the three ranked as 18 year olds?

[undercoverbrother]

I think you might be a bit early in their respective careers to be comparing them.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I think you might be a bit early in their respective careers to be comparing them.

He's specifically talking about them as 18 year olds, comparing their draft years...

[smiggy77]

I'd probably have to agree with your evaluation and ranking. Bennett was highly touted in his draft year (number one at times). Granted Monahan had a successful year on a very poor team.


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[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I think you might be a bit early in their respective careers to be comparing them.

He's not comparing careers in the NHL. Comparing their junior careers and speculating their draft rankings if they were the same age.


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[polak]

Hard to rank Bennett vs. Monahan when Monahan has already broke out.

If Bennett doesn't improve on 18 goals it'll be a major disappointment and he'd be last, but he has the potential to be a lot better than Sean... But it's all just potential.

Edit: Draft ranking wise I think Bennett was the most hyped, than Tkachuk than Monahan. So hopefully that holds true cause then we're set!

[MrMastodonFarm]

Bennett
Monahan
Tkachuk

Next thread.

[BrownDrake]

Monahan is a very difficult one to dissect. He was very over scouted from a younger age than most players which usually leads to dropping a few spots. If born 2 months earlier he would have been drafted in the 2012 draft class and I'm sure would have went top 3 if not 1st overall because teams covet large centers.

I think my ranking would be

Bennett
Monahan
Tkachuk

Not going to argue Monahan first either, quite equal in my opinion.

[DJones]

Surprised everyone is putting Monahan over Tkachuk.

He's turned out great but I think the hype was bigger for Tkachuk

Bennett by a fair margin

Tkachuk
Monahan

[bigrangy]

I agree with Bennett-Monahan-Tkachuk, but the gap between Bennett and Monahan is smaller than the one between Monahan and Tkachuk. Tkachuk's draft year performance is not a true representation of his abilities imo. Monahan's bad team in his draft year was the only reason he didn't go higher in his draft year.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by DJones

Surprised everyone is putting Monahan over Tkachuk.

He's turned out great but I think the hype was bigger for Tkachuk

Bennett by a fair margin

Tkachuk
Monahan

This is the order I had to. Based on absolutely nothing except my gut feeling of course. But at least for offensive ceiling, that's how I see it.

[agulati]

Bennett
Tkachuk
Monahan

[DJones]

Bennett;
http://thehockeywriters.com/samuel-b...spect-profile/

Tkachuk;
http://thehockeywriters.com/matthew-...spect-profile/

Monahan;
http://thehockeywriters.com/sean-mon...spect-profile/

[BrownDrake]

Monahan carried his line in his draft year on a weak team. Almost doubled the nearest point scorer with 78points, nearest had 40 points. Didn't play with any finishers that year unlike a Drouin-Mackinnon, or Tkachuk-Dvorak-Marner

I have Bennett and Monahan really close, both were the #1 ranked OHL's in their draft class. I think I only put Bennett ahead for the wrong reasons, he seemed flashier and put up more points so if drafted same year I likely go with Bennett.

Putting a gritty winger like Tkachuk ahead of Potential first line centers like Monahan and Bennett probably wouldn't happen at any NHL draft war room.

I'm still amazed at how little respect Monahan gets, even from myself.

[MarkGio]

Bennett could've been #1 in his class, but he couldn't do a pull up and was injured, while Reinhart was a righty, Ekblad was all around defensemen, while Drasaitl was big.

Monahan was never going to overtake McKinnon, Barkov, Drouin or Jones. But Monahans class was close than Bennett's, except McKinnon was consensus and hyped as a clear #1

Tkachuk's class is by far the best. I would hazard to guess Matthews, Pul, and Laine will be better than all said players in all three drafts being discussed, except for how much McKinnon was hyped. But there is a huge drop in talent after Laine.

So I would say Bennett > Tkachuk =\= Monahan

[DJones]

Originally Posted by BrownDrake

Monahan carried his line in his draft year on a weak team. Almost doubled the nearest point scorer with 78points, nearest had 40 points. Didn't play with any finishers that year unlike a Drouin-Mackinnon, or Tkachuk-Dvorak-Marner

I have Bennett and Monahan really close, both were the #1 ranked OHL's in their draft class. I think I only put Bennett ahead for the wrong reasons, he seemed flashier and put up more points so if drafted same year I likely go with Bennett.

Putting a gritty winger like Tkachuk ahead of Potential first line centers like Monahan and Bennett probably wouldn't happen at any NHL draft war room.

I'm still amazed at how little respect Monahan gets, even from myself.

If Monahan and Bennett were in the same draft it wouldn't even be close. Consensus ranking for Monahan was 7th. Bennett was a candidate for #1.

Monahan has vastly exceeded his draft expectations.

[BrownDrake]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Bennett could've been #1 in his class, but he couldn't do a pull up and was injured, while Reinhart was a righty, Ekblad was all around defensemen, while Drasaitl was big.

Monahan was never going to overtake McKinnon, Barkov, Drouin or Jones. But Monahans class was close than Bennett's, except McKinnon was consensus and hyped as a clear #1

Tkachuk's class is by far the best. I would hazard to guess Matthews, Pul, and Laine will be better than all said players in all three drafts being discussed, except for how much McKinnon was hyped. But there is a huge drop in talent after Laine.

So I would say Bennett > Tkachuk =\= Monahan

I like Tkachuk but no way he goes ahead of a big center man.

Monahan was ranked 3rd overall behind only Jones and Mackinnon in prelim rankings by McKenzie, The Next Ones and the Hockey Writers, probably many others as well. He was older and not putting up a lot of points playing on a weak team with no line mates in his draft year. After 3 years its looks like many of those rankings were the correct ones not the final consensus rankings. Fell in his draft year for the wrong reasons to flashier players that were not as over scouted.

Kids a helluva player. Can't argue with 3 years of NHL stats either, in many re-drafts in a good draft class he probably goes anywhere from #1 to #3 easily. Mackinnon had almost 2 PPG and better speed but never was the all round player Monahan was in his draft year. Played with Drouin when Monahan played with Dante Salituro on a poorer team.

We got uber lucky getting him at 6

[Babby Daddy]

1. Bennett
2. Monahan
3. Tkachuk

[Flames Draft Watcher]

1. Bennett
2. Tkachuk
3. Monahan

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by DJones

If Monahan and Bennett were in the same draft it wouldn't even be close. Consensus ranking for Monahan was 7th. Bennett was a candidate for #1.

Monahan has vastly exceeded his draft expectations.

Looking back on it though, the 2013 draft was way better at the top end than 2014 or 2016 (Matthews excepted).

Monahan's draft year compares nicely with a player like Dubois, who should have gone no worse than 4th this year. It's not often that you see a player that has double the points of the next player on his team. His low draft ranking was also due to people thinking that his draft year was no better than his draft-1, (78 points both years), but they probably failed to realize his team went from playoffs to basement, with Monahan being one of the only good players left.

I can't imagine any scout (except Edmonton ones of course, they did take Hall over Seguin) taking Tkachuk over Monahan at their drafts.