10-06-2016, 10:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Sportsnet ranks top 20 defensemen by the numbers
Both Brodie and Giordano make the cut
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12:#T. Just Brodie#| Offence: 9.57/25 | Defence: 21.11/35 | Transition: 28.14/40 | Total: 58.82/100
One half of Calgary’s incredible first pairing, T.J. Brodie came out of junior as an offensive defenceman, but now takes a secondary or even tertiary role in that regard in Calgary. He has diversified his game to be a defensive stalwart and transition beast. Brodie is all about efficiency, rarely dumping the puck out of his zone or into the opponents, and he’s excellent at finding players in the neutral zone to create rushes.
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2:#Mark Giordano | Offence: 15.44/25 | Defence: 24.65/35 | Transition: 27.72/40 | Total: 67.81/100
After two seasons where he could have easily won the Norris Trophy had he not been injured for the last quarter of the year, Giordano finally played a full season and set career highs in goals and points. His offensive numbers are great, but what truly sets him apart is his play without the puck, where he ranks as the best defensive defenceman in the NHL. Giordano is quick, physical, and smart, and when he does win the puck away from opponents, he’s also an elite transition player. He’s everything you want in a franchise defenceman, even if he is 32 years old already.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/r...n-nhl-numbers/
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10-06-2016, 10:57 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Sportsnet: Ranking the top 20 defencemen in the NHL
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/r...n-nhl-numbers/
Gio listed as #2 behind Karlsson!
" His offensive numbers are great, but what truly sets him apart is his play without the puck, where he ranks as the best defensive defenceman in the NHL."
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10-06-2016, 10:58 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Well I'll be jiggered. They finally got a list right for once.
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10-06-2016, 11:00 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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No Oilers? WTF?
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10-06-2016, 11:00 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Well, Mark Giordano is ranked #2, and Johnny Gaudreau was ranked lower at his position, clearly this will affect Johnny's negotations. Expect Gaudreau to sign for $6.5M/year. Book it.
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10-06-2016, 11:00 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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Originally Posted by OmegaV4
Well I'll be jiggered. They finally got a list right for once.
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Finally is right...also he needs to rank first just due to the fact he plays defence so much better than the guy they listed first...just my opinion.
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10-06-2016, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by troutman
No Oilers? WTF?
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where is adam larsson
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10-06-2016, 11:02 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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No Weber?
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10-06-2016, 11:08 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Halifax, NS
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No Oilers, Leafs or 'Nucks. The way life should be...
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10-06-2016, 11:10 AM
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Great list, good rationales
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10-06-2016, 11:26 AM
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I'm sure somebody will complain about the use of the stats/eye test that certain players are high/low/missing.
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10-06-2016, 11:28 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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...what truly sets him apart is his play without the puck, where he ranks as the best defensive defenceman in the NHL.
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Wow. That is high praise for Mark Giordano.
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10-06-2016, 11:36 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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It's a good list and awesome praise for Gio and Brodie. Only complaint is Keith should not be at number 13, even if he is 33. He is Chicago.
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10-06-2016, 11:36 AM
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Franchise Player
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Brian Campbell at 8th.... Didn't expect that.
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10-06-2016, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by vicarious
No Weber?
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He's living largely on his rep at this point.
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10-06-2016, 11:50 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Wow. That is high praise for Mark Giordano.
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I'm removing my homer glasses and am going to say that I'm not sure I agree with Gio's ranking. Gio is good, no doubt. But best overall defensive defencemen in the NHL, therefore the world? IMO Doughty and maybe a couple others are ahead of him in that regard.
As happy as I am to see his ranked #2, there's no way he's ahead of guys like Keith, Doughty or even possibly Brodie. Especially given that the main knock on Keith in the article was him being 33. Gio is almost 33....
Doughty is the reigning Norris winner and this is said about him
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While his pass success rate may be the driving force behind his reputation as a mistake-free hockey player, Doughty isn’t afraid to take risks, and it does occasionally blow up on him.
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If that is why his ranking got him knocked down, you could easily say the same about Gio. Especially with how he played in the first 1/4 of last season.
Last edited by Huntingwhale; 10-06-2016 at 11:53 AM.
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10-06-2016, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I'm removing my homer glasses and am going to say that I'm not sure I agree with Gio's ranking. Gio is good, no doubt. But best overall defensive defencemen in the NHL, therefore the world? IMO Doughty and maybe a couple others are ahead of him in that regard.
As happy as I am to see his ranked #2, there's no way he's ahead of guys like Keith, Doughty or even possibly Brodie. Especially given that the main knock on Keith in the article was him being 33. Gio is almost 33....
Doughty is the reigning Norris winner and this is said about him
If that is why his ranking got him knocked down, you could easily say the same about Gio. Especially with how he played in the first 1/4 of last season.
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As much as I like Brodie, he's overrated on this board when this board compares the two. Gio has better numbers, plays better defensively. He's just not as flashy as Brodie.
As far as being a defensive defenceman, I've always thought Gio is good for his size and for a guy who looks to score. But not the best defensive defenceman in the league, like a Rod Langway.
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10-06-2016, 11:57 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I'm removing my homer glasses and am going to say that I'm not sure I agree with Gio's ranking. Gio is good, no doubt. But best overall defensive defencemen in the NHL, therefore the world? IMO Doughty and maybe a couple others are ahead of him in that regard.
As happy as I am to see his ranked #2, there's no way he's ahead of guys like Keith, Doughty or even possibly Brodie. Especially given that the main knock on Keith in the article was him being 33. Gio is almost 33....
Doughty is the reigning Norris winner and this is said about him
If that is why his ranking got him knocked down, you could easily say the same about Gio. Especially with how he played in the first 1/4 of last season.
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I don't disagree at all, but in the end I remain pretty happy about the Flames having two defensemen that are both in the conversation of being top-ten in the world.
That's a win.
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10-06-2016, 12:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Hes
I like this ranking because it ranks Flames players high. I do not like other rankings that rank them low.
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LOL, it's sad that you can predict fan reactions to the quality of something by how their own team's players are ranked.
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