Who were your draft winners and loser?

[flamesfan55]

Who do you think were the winners and loser. Obviously time will tell but at this point what your feelings.

Winners:
Flames, they were able to draft Tkachuk 6 overall. They walked Away with a number 1 and it only cost them a 2nd round pick.

Arizona, Kellar is a stud but time will tell if his size becomes a factor. They were able to take a bad contract to help them reach the cap floor and managed to get jakob chychrun.

Loser:
Edmonton, yes they got another skilled forward but there defense still SUCKS. They had so many options this draft to dramatically improve there team.

Boston, Washington, New Jersey

[Commandant]

I'm glad you asked. I literally just published this.

All thirty teams graded. With long explanations on each team. Over 8000 words total. This is the culmination of over a year's worth of research and work into the NHL Entry Draft. Hope people enjoy.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...-draft-grades/

[devo22]

Winners:

- Calgary - getting Tkachuk and Elliott was outstanding
- Philadelphia - German Rubtsov, Pascal Laberge, Carter Hart and Wade Allison is a fantastic haul
- Arizona - Keller and Chychrun in the 1st round, and the Datsyuk contract actually helps them
- Detroit - got rid of the Datsyuk contract without having to give up assets, also made some interesting picks
- Carolina - Bean and Gauthier in the first round

Losers:

- Boston - another stinker. Not as mind-boggling as last year but the Frederic pick was horrible
- Washington - paid too much for Eller
- Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay - couldn't trade a goalie

Somewhere in between:

- Toronto - got Matthews obviously, but some really strange picks outside of the 1st round
- Winnipeg - can't call them a loser after getting Laine, but trading up for Logan Stanley was brutal
- Edmonton - did well in the draft itself, but yet again failed to get a defenseman
- Columbus - didn't shed any salary

[Poe969]

I think the jets getting Laine and Stanley in the first is pretty damn good...and I don't really like the jets.

Oilers were big losers because they're big losers at the best of times.

[Roof-Daddy]

I'd chalk Vancouver up as a loser too.

They got Juolevi at 5th OA, but then didn't pick again until 64 OA and only had 6 picks total which includes 2 in the 7th round, 1 in the 6th and 1 in the 5th.

That's pretty terrible for a team that SHOULD be rebuilding. Plus, I know it's early but the players they did pick after Juolevi all look like a whole lot of "meh"

Oh yeah, and Dim Jim got his pee-pee slapped for tampering too.

[Cantrader]

Originally Posted by Commandant

I'm glad you asked. I literally just published this.

All thirty teams graded. With long explanations on each team. Over 8000 words total. This is the culmination of over a year's worth of research and work into the NHL Entry Draft. Hope people enjoy.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...-draft-grades/

Great post and good work. I like the A for flames

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Commandant

I'm glad you asked. I literally just published this.

All thirty teams graded. With long explanations on each team. Over 8000 words total. This is the culmination of over a year's worth of research and work into the NHL Entry Draft. Hope people enjoy.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...-draft-grades/

great work as always. Just a quick heads up, you forget the Blues grade

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Commandant

I'm glad you asked. I literally just published this.

All thirty teams graded. With long explanations on each team. Over 8000 words total. This is the culmination of over a year's worth of research and work into the NHL Entry Draft. Hope people enjoy.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...-draft-grades/

Very good read. Thanks.

[Rejean31]

With a big three prospects in the draft, the Oilers looked like the big draft lottery losers when they fell to fourth. But they are the Oilers, and they never lose a draft lottery. Thanks to an inexplicable pick by Columbus, the Oilers still got one of the big three, at fourth overall.

Aint that the truth, somehow even when they lose the draft lottery, the flukiest bunch of flukers to ever fluke STILL fluke out and get one of the top three.

[flamesfan55]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

With a big three prospects in the draft, the Oilers looked like the big draft lottery losers when they fell to fourth. But they are the Oilers, and they never lose a draft lottery. Thanks to an inexplicable pick by Columbus, the Oilers still got one of the big three, at fourth overall.

Aint that the truth, somehow even when they lose the draft lottery, the flukiest bunch of flukers to ever fluke STILL fluke out and get one of the top three.

I have to disagree here. From everything I heard and read Dubous was higher on a lot of team lists. I also find it interesting that the jackets Finish GM passed on JP. That would have me wondering what holes they see in his game.

[OutOfTheCube]

Man Anaheim drafted some guys with kick ass names. Max Jones? Sam Steel? Jack Kopacka? Those are prime superhero alter-egos right there.

[djsFlames]

Win:
Toronto - May have botched much of the rest of the draft but Matthews will surely help that team, particularly with Marner and Nylander to step in this season
Winnipeg - Laine may well be the best sniper prospect drafted since Stamkos..
Calgary - Acquired the SV% leauge leader for a 2nd and whose contract is only peanuts, which opens up money to pursue a top RW. Addressed 2 vital needs and may pay dividends as early as next season
Arizona - Keller and Chychrun, that is all
Buffalo - Nylander and Cliff Poo ... say no more
Carolina - More quality offensive d-men and acquisition of Tuevo Terrevainen

Lose:
Vancouver - They think Juolevi will be a #1D, when in truth there were no Ekblad/Jones caliber D in this draft. Should have traded down if he was their man but did not. Setting themselves up to be one of the worst offensive teams as soon as the Sedins fall off. Not enough talent up front coming up
Edmonton - JP would be a win alone for any other team, but the Oil will ruin him, as they have time and time before. STILL fail to address their defence with any true quality, while continuing to hang on to useless one-way liabilities up front like Eberle and Yakupov
Boston - Odd picks, a continuation of last year
Chicago - Losing Tuevo to clear cap space, not great picks
Pittsburgh - Still sitting with MAF because the GM is greedy. Didn't do anything spectacular draft-wise

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Commandant

I'm glad you asked. I literally just published this.

All thirty teams graded. With long explanations on each team. Over 8000 words total. This is the culmination of over a year's worth of research and work into the NHL Entry Draft. Hope people enjoy.

http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/06/...-draft-grades/

What is this? There is no clickbait link to "30 Hottest Athlete's Wives" I am intrigued so I will subscribe.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Man Anaheim drafted some guys with kick ass names. Max Jones? Sam Steel? Jack Kopacka? Those are prime superhero alter-egos right there.

They're fine, but they're no Hardy Haman Aktell.

[Table 5]

I actually think the Oilers did pretty well this draft, as far as the draft is concerned at least. Even if you discount Puljujarvi, their picks outside of the 1st (especially a guy like Benson) seem to have some pretty good potential.

Their smartest move this draft may have been to sit still. From what it sounded like, Chiarelli sniffed out that Columbus wasn't going to take Puljujarvi even if they kept their 3rd pick, and backed out from making any deals. That was pretty shrewd...probably to our detriment.

Obviously when it comes to their current Dman situation though, they did zip, which is a fail in that aspect.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by flamesfan55

I have to disagree here. From everything I heard and read Dubous was higher on a lot of team lists. I also find it interesting that the jackets Finish GM passed on JP. That would have me wondering what holes they see in his game.

It was a bad pick. PLD is may end up being a good player but on some lists he wasn't even top 5 as there were concerns about the league he plays in and his pedestrian WU18 tournament. IMO they had one of the worst weekends in recent history (Bruins last year was pretty bad) when you consider their 1st pick and the awful trade with the Leafs.

[Commandant]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It was a bad pick. PLD is may end up being a good player but on some lists he wasn't even top 5 as there were concerns about the league he plays in and his pedestrian WU18 tournament. IMO they had one of the worst weekends in recent history (Bruins last year was pretty bad) when you consider their 1st pick and the awful trade with the Leafs.

PLD was so pedestrian at the WU18, that he didn't even PLAY

[N-E-B]

Winners:
Calgary, Arizona, Carolina, Toronto, Winnipeg

Losers:
Vancouver

Other than that, I really don't see any other clear "losers". I'd love to say Edmoton lost because they failed to get a defenseman again but I think they did quite well with Puljujarvi and Benson.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Table 5

I actually think the Oilers did pretty well this draft, as far as the draft is concerned at least. Even if you discount Puljujarvi, their picks outside of the 1st (especially a guy like Benson) seem to have some pretty good potential.

Their smartest move this draft may have been to sit still. From what it sounded like, Chiarelli sniffed out that Columbus wasn't going to take Puljujarvi even if they kept their 3rd pick, and backed out from making any deals. That was pretty shrewd...probably to our detriment.

Obviously when it comes to their current Dman situation though, they did zip, which is a fail in that aspect.

I think Benson was a bad pick for them. Their top 6/9 should be all but figured out going forward, the last thing they need is another flashy winger. I have nothing against Benson, but the Oilers are the last team that should be picking players like that with 2nd round picks. People might say "well, they can just use Benson as trade bait if he turns out and they can't fit him in." Well, in case any one hasn't noticed, that is easier said than done. Wingers are the least important part of a team and the Oilers are loaded at that position. Other teams won't pay a premium for guys like that unless they are a star and even then not so much (see Phil Kessel).

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by flamesfan55

I have to disagree here. From everything I heard and read Dubous was higher on a lot of team lists. I also find it interesting that the jackets Finish GM passed on JP. That would have me wondering what holes they see in his game.

I don't think there are any mysteries about Puljujärvi. Teams just have different evaluations. The Flames certainly talked about the big three but I doubt Columbus was the only team who had Dubois third overall.