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View Poll Results: Assuming a fair trade, how far are you willing to drop back in the 2016 draft?
Not willing to drop at all. Make the pick or trade up only 85 41.26%
1 or 2 spots to 7OA or 8th OA 32 15.53%
3 or 4 spots to 9th or 10th OA 58 28.16%
5 or 6 spots to 11th or 12th OA 14 6.80%
would be willing to drop as long as it is in top 15 4 1.94%
would be willing to drop out of the top 15 13 6.31%
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Old 06-11-2016, 01:22 PM   #1
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2. After the NHL Scouting Combine, the Columbus Blue Jackets invited several prospects to Ohio for more in-depth interviews. Among them: Jake Bean, Logan Brown, Clayton Keller, Jesse Puljujarvi and Matthew Tkachuk.

The Blue Jackets are picking third. Puljujarvi is right there. Tkachuk is close. Brown (who also visited the St. Louis Blues) is in the next wave. Bean and Keller are going high, although where depends on who you are talking to.

No doubt the Blue Jackets are covering all their bases, but you can’t help but wonder what all of this means. At the very least, GM Jarmo Kekalainen is making it interesting.

3. There were some Scott Hartnell rumblings around the trade deadline, but nothing came to fruition. The ask was high. There is something going on now, though. According to sources, Hartnell, who has a no-move clause, has agreed to waive it for several teams. Kekalainen and agent Matt Oates would not comment, but word is it’s a decent-sized list.

Hartnell is 34, and I think potential trade partners are a little concerned about that third year remaining on his contract. If it was one or two, I’m not sure there’d be much worry. But, it’s clear he’s willing to move on, which will have him motivated to make an impact.
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4. Early prediction: Toronto takes Auston Matthews. Patrik Laine to Winnipeg. Columbus selects Jesse Puljujarvi. Edmonton goes for Matthew Tkachuk. Pierre-Luc Dubois heads for Vancouver.

I’m very curious about Calgary. For a long time, we assumed if anyone was going to move down, it would the Oilers. The Flames might be a good bet, too. Arizona, picking right behind them, is on-record saying it wants to add defencemen. So is Buffalo — particularly on the left side. Would the Sabres want to leapfrog the Coyotes? Or is there someone further wanting to climb? Sounds like Calgary is willing to consider it.
Montreal wants to move up?

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5. Another team testing the possibility of moving up: Montreal. The Canadiens pick ninth.

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6. Some rumblings the Canucks prefer Logan Brown. At this time of year, I refer to the Isiah Thomas rule. As a young reporter, he said to me, “Around the draft, everyone lies.”

There is a connection, however, that would provide Vancouver good intel on Brown. Logan’s father, Jeff, coached the USHL Indiana Ice when director of amateur scouting Judd Brackett was the Ice’s head scout two years ago.

7. A GM on the Vancouver Canucks: “One of the free-agent wingers is going there. Just have to figure out which one.”

Word out of the combine was Boston and Loui Eriksson would take a final run at a deal.

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10. Dale Hunter declined the opportunity to interview with the Anaheim Ducks, but do not underestimate his chances for that job if he had. When these coaching searches end, I surmise we’re going to find out the interview pool was deeper than we realized. My suspicion is the finalists in Anaheim and Calgary include some unfamiliar names. For the Ducks, my guess is that list includes Randy Carlyle and Travis Green. Word is they are getting close to a decision. For the Flames, it includes Glen Gulutzan and Mike Yeo.


11. Yeo and Craig Berube are also in the race for the St. Louis openings. This one is interesting. There’s obviously an opportunity to replace Ken Hitchcock next summer, but I’m not sure there is any kind of guarantee. I get that, because you never know what can happen in one year.

No doubt the interviewees would prefer some level of security. Remember the current/previous assistants were only offered one-year contracts. I could see Yeo, for example, wanting to wait on Calgary before committing to St. Louis. Berube’s had other interviews, too.

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Berube is an interesting name. hadn't heard that one associated with Calgary at all and perhaps there is zero connection.

He would make some sense to in that he is relatively young at age 50 and is an Alberta boy who enjoyed some success as a player on some pretty good teams and as a coach (particularly in the A).

I have a couple Berube stories...he is quite a character.
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Berube used to play for the Flames, there could be a possible fit.
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Old 06-11-2016, 02:06 PM   #4
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6th+Wideman +56th
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Flames can pick up a starting goalie and dump Wideman at the same time while taking on minimal cap space. At 10 they will still get a good prospect. This leaves them some money to add a player in free agency or make a trade for another
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6th+Wideman +56th
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Flames can pick up a starting goalie and dump Wideman at the same time while taking on minimal cap space. At 10 they will still get a good prospect. This leaves them some money to add a player in free agency or make a trade for another
No indication that Colorado wants to move up and the max I'd want to move down to is 9. At 9 we would get one of sergachev Juolevi or Nylander provided Mtl takes Brown at 6. Still get a good talent but dropping any further sees lesser talent available
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6th+Wideman +56th
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Flames can pick up a starting goalie and dump Wideman at the same time while taking on minimal cap space. At 10 they will still get a good prospect. This leaves them some money to add a player in free agency or make a trade for another
Why would the Avs want to trade Varlamov? Is there a rumour they want to trade him?
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Hudson Fasching + 8th OA in exchange for 6th OA?

What would be the reaction of the crowd in Buffalo? Cheers or jeers?
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Why would the Avs want to trade Varlamov? Is there a rumour they want to trade him?
yeah im not sure why they would move him although he had a horrendous year last year.

Ramo has as good a year....think about that.
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Why would the Avs want to trade Varlamov? Is there a rumour they want to trade him?

No rumours, just speculation that they might want to protect Pickard before Varly if there is an expansion draft.
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Hudson Fasching + 8th OA in exchange for 6th OA?

What would be the reaction of the crowd in Buffalo? Cheers or jeers?
Interesting. Fasching does meet all of our check marks, big, young, RW, shoots right.
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All your big Right shooting RW prospects are belong to us.


I'd like Baptiste if Buffalo wants to move up.
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I think you are getting a similar level of player between 6-10. If anyone in that range is willing to make the switch, and the Flames make out good with whatever is offered then I would be down.
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I imagine Treliving considers any and all trade proposals anyone approaches him with, even if some are considered very briefly.
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The poll assumes a fair trade. In that case I would be ok having no first round picks.
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Berube used to play for the Flames, there could be a possible fit.
When hearing his name, I remember this great brawl:



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I imagine by June 24 there will be an article indicating all teams picking top 10 are considering trading down.

I would be surprised if even one pick is traded. Same noise, no substance every year.

Draft has weak depth, Flames already have three 2nd round picks... I don't see a lot enticing the Flames here.
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The poll assumes a fair trade. In that case I would be ok having no first round picks.
True. Theoretically, if we were getting great value, I would welcome any trade.

When it comes to trading down, I just don't have faith that it is worth it.
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Hudson Fasching + 8th OA in exchange for 6th OA?

What would be the reaction of the crowd in Buffalo? Cheers or jeers?
I think it'd depend who's left on the board. If Dubois or Tkachuk were there I'd do it all day. But if those guys were there, I doubt the Flames would want to trade down.
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Nothing to do with the pick really, but I actually wouldn't mind adding Hartnell.
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For those who like Nylander a trade down could have him still there.

4. Tkachuk/Dubois
5. Dubois/Tkachuk
6. Trade down to #9. MTL takes Brown
7. ARI takes dman
8. BUF takes dman
9. CGY still has choice of Nylander, Keller, Jost, a dman

Based on the players that a lot of you want (Keller, Nylander) a trade down would make sense. I still think there's a chance Tkachuk/Dubois falls to us at #6 and I don't see us trading down if that happens.
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