Paul Martin...

[Clarkey]

Apparently he announced that Canada is going to boost oil production to help quell the tight global supply.

What, is he going to tell the private oil companies to start producing more? They are already producing at capacity due to high prices.

Or maybe he will release oil from our strategic reserve underground stores, oh wait we don't have any.

Paul Martin is a turd.

[Patek23]

Was he ever not a turd?

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by Clarkey@Sep 2 2005, 02:12 PM
Apparently he announced that Canada is going to boost oil production to help quell the tight global supply.

What, is he going to tell the private oil companies to start producing more? They are already producing at capacity due to high prices.

Or maybe he will release oil from our strategic reserve underground stores, oh wait we don't have any.

Paul Martin is a turd.

Actually, this is what he was talking about:

Twenty-six countries in an international energy consortium will release more than 60 million barrels of crude oil and gasoline to relieve the energy crunch caused by Hurricane Katrina in the United States.

Paul Martin is still a turd . . . . but, you know, maybe for another reason than you're stating.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9173277/

Cowperson

[Devils'Advocate]

According to the article on CNN, the government is calling on oil refineries which were planning on doing preventative maintenance to hold off until oil supplies get back to normal.

And, yes, Ralph has said that Alberta is running at peak capacity, but you presume that Alberta is the only place with refineries. I used to pass by the one in Dartmouth every day on the way to work. There is a large one in St. John.

Notice that in the article Martin says "PROVINCES" PLURAL.

[MarchHare]

There is a large one in St. John.

The Irving refinery in Saint John is the largest in Canada and second largest on the continent.

[Clarkey]

I heard a quick blurb of a quote on QR77 from Martin.

That article doesn't have any reference to Canada or Paul Martin specifically.

The radio quote made him sound like he's pretending he's the president of OPEC or something.

[Looger]

Originally posted by Clarkey@Sep 2 2005, 09:52 PM
The radio quote made him sound like he's pretending he's the president of OPEC or something.

maybe we should get carlos out of retirement (jail)!

[Flame On]

Awww poor oil companies getting their feet trod on by the PM, they're so hard done by. fata that and fata them. Even if; by the sounds of your highly inaccurate post, were right, if his intention is to alleviate price and stress on economies (which helping the US helps Canada) what's your fataing beef other than lashing out cause he's liberal?

[Draug]

Originally posted by Flame On@Sep 2 2005, 11:04 PM
... what's your fataing beef other than lashing out cause he's liberal?

Hey, that is a good enough reason for me! :P

[Clarkey]

Originally posted by Flame On@Sep 2 2005, 11:04 PM
Awww poor oil companies getting their feet trod on by the PM, they're so hard done by. fata that and fata them. Even if; by the sounds of your highly inaccurate post, were right, if his intention is to alleviate price and stress on economies (which helping the US helps Canada) what's your fataing beef other than lashing out cause he's liberal?

My point is that he is talking out of his rear end as always.

What is your point other than defending your Liberals?

[metallicat]

I've heard gas prices are going up because of the shortage...does this mean we can expect to see .90 gas again by next week?

[Resolute 14]

Originally posted by Devils'Advocate@Sep 2 2005, 02:33 PM
According to the article on CNN, the government is calling on oil refineries which were planning on doing preventative maintenance to hold off until oil supplies get back to normal.

And, yes, Ralph has said that Alberta is running at peak capacity, but you presume that Alberta is the only place with refineries. I used to pass by the one in Dartmouth every day on the way to work. There is a large one in St. John.

Notice that in the article Martin says "PROVINCES" PLURAL.

Umm, who exactly was talking about Alberta, and who exactly was dismissing the oil production of other provinces?

[browna]

Originally posted by oilers_fan@Sep 2 2005, 05:49 PM
I've heard gas prices are going up because of the shortage...does this mean we can expect to see .90 gas again by next week?

What shortage?

Suppy and demand doesn't move move that quickly.

That US Gulf coast oil that's shut in production because of the storms, would't have been refined and shipped for a few weeks at least, longer for the portion/reserve that would actually effect Canada.

The gas prices have gone up this week with the mere aniticpation of shortages down the road in a month (debateable itself, with the increased production from the US, and this group of countries annouced in last few days), and, the last money grab for retailers for the last spike in demand of 2005, due to the last long weekend of popular summer motoring.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally posted by Snakeeye+Sep 2 2005, 04:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snakeeye @ Sep 2 2005, 04:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Devils'Advocate@Sep 2 2005, 02:33 PM
According to the article on CNN, the government is calling on oil refineries which were planning on doing preventative maintenance to hold off until oil supplies get back to normal.

And, yes, Ralph has said that Alberta is running at peak capacity, but you presume that Alberta is the only place with refineries. I used to pass by the one in Dartmouth every day on the way to work. There is a large one in St. John.

Notice that in the article Martin says "PROVINCES" PLURAL.

Umm, who exactly was talking about Alberta, and who exactly was dismissing the oil production of other provinces? [/b][/quote]
It would appear, Clarkey.

The article quotes Klien saying that Alberta is running at peak capacity. Nobody else. Nobody from any other province. Just people from Alberta.

So Clarkey then says that they are all running at peak. So unless he has another link showing that Bernard Lord has also come forward and said that St. John is running at peak as well, I can only assume. When the link is provided, I will see that I assumed wrong and that Clarkey did do his research on the situation in the other provinces and didn't just assume, based on the article, that all refineries could not produce more.

[Flame On]

Article by Business Reuters.

An oil industry official said the extra shipments are expected to come both through additional production and because surging prices have weakened domestic demand.
"We've communicated with both governments, federal and provincial, to let them know what we can, and we're searching through our members now to see what may be able to be freed up or made available from the production side, and I know the pipelines are doing the same," said Greg Stringham, vice-president of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.

Gee looks to me like Paul spoke with someone and they worked out the amount they are "able to free up" or "made available". Don't think Paul just came out with this in a vaccum, it's possible but I don't think likely. I think what's more likely is you were listening to the investagative reporting giants at qr77 and heard some clip that didn't quite go far enough. Either that or you were straight up talking out of your rear.

[Resolute 14]

Originally posted by Devils'Advocate+Sep 2 2005, 07:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Devils'Advocate @ Sep 2 2005, 07:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Snakeeye
Umm, who exactly was talking about Alberta, and who exactly was dismissing the oil production of other provinces?

It would appear, Clarkey.

The article quotes Klien saying that Alberta is running at peak capacity. Nobody else. Nobody from any other province. Just people from Alberta.

So Clarkey then says that they are all running at peak. So unless he has another link showing that Bernard Lord has also come forward and said that St. John is running at peak as well, I can only assume. When the link is provided, I will see that I assumed wrong and that Clarkey did do his research on the situation in the other provinces and didn't just assume, based on the article, that all refineries could not produce more. [/b][/quote]
Clarkey didn't even quote an article, Cowperson did. Clarkey was just reiterating what he heard.

And you are right, you can only assume. I find it interested that your assumptions are rather anti-Alberta. Since it seems logical that the entire system is running at capacity now - if not the refineries than the supply to the refineries - I am not certian why you made the assumption you did. Though, it is a fair assumption to make.